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You can have hi cap mags for guns you qualify with and use on duty.

Understood. But from the variety of "active shooter" incidents that we've seen across the nation, the SOP for most police is simply as follows: 1. Establish perimeter 2. Wait for SWAT team You describe what happened at Colombine. People kept dying while waiting for SWAT. Engaging the active shooter with the first responding units is a more effective tactic to minimize loss of life. The answer is more guns in the right hands, and those hands are yours and mine. So you're volunteering to patrol schools with your AR or am I reading that wrong? You should have an AR or AK and the police shouldn't? It also means more money in investigative skills, not shooting skills. This would be so the police can figure out where the shooter was standing when they killed all the people they shot? Police shooting skills are the object of so many jokes on gun forums and you're advocating police don't have more. It's much easier to hit with a rifle whatever your skill level is. Allow teachers and faculty to be armed, and control the portals entering and exiting the school itself. They're more than that to parents and their children. For the hours they're in the class, the teacher is their guardian. What good is a guardian if they are forcibly disarmed by the state? Yeah, sure. Send this proposal to the NJEA and see what they say. Do you think they'd agree with you? To what end? Patrol officers are not soldiers, nor should they be equipped as such. They aren't soldiers and neither are most of the people on this forum. Police shouldn't have them but the average citizen should? You are losing any argument criticizing stupid laws like NJ's AWB with logic like that. But hey, we all saw how VT and Columbine worked out... I bet more AR-15s and body armor for the police would've really helped there If police had immediate response policy to an active shooter at the time many lives may have been saved both those of victims already shot and those that were shot while waiting for SWAT. Everyone is entitled to an opinion. When you formulate opinions on flawed thinking that's dangerous. It seems on every gun forum there are those that know way more about how police should operate and what they should be armed without any concept of what they are talking about. When I was a LE firearms instructor I encouraged use of long guns (870s, M4s, MP5s, etc) whenever anyone was going out on anything where a shooting was possible. Many times mere display of the long guns were enough to make the bad guys give up (who willing to fight it out if you came only with handgun). The bravado of saying "I can make that shot with a pistol" or "I shoot better than most cops anyway" go down the toilet in a genuine shooting situation. As far as the guy losing the rifle, punish him and lets carry on.

Phoenix PD was looking for people big time but has slowed n almost stopped in the last three years. I have family in Arizona and had oppertunities to join three years ago and kick myself for not moving. The problem with a long distance move for a local agency is if you like the work but can't stand living there you're starting out all over again. I started with the Federal government moving from NJ to AZ. During the summer it was too hot for my kids to play outside during the day, had to drive 150 miles to get to a real supermarket, 50 miles to get a part for my car with the choice of one place to go, and with no cable TV then I got to watch reruns of Mannix in from Mexican TV or one channel from Tucson or Phoenix but only at night after spending a weeks pay on a super antenna and line amp. I worked my way back east with no loss of seniority, postion, or anything like that. Okay you won't have a lot of those problems in Phoenix. AFAIC Phoenix has the same problem as most places have between the Mississippi and the West Coast and that's you have to drive so far to go somewhere else. Something to consider.

I picked revolver. Simple manual of arms you don't have to stop and think how it works or if its my Glock, 1911, or Beretta by the bedside. If you only have one type of semiauto I'd go with that. Shotguns are great but you can't maneuver them as easily as a handgun. Birdshot will work at home defense ranges and won't penetrate walls but you have to consider the fact that if it hits a steel door, stove, fridge, or other metal it will richochet and can wind up hitting something you don't want hit.

And, if it were "NATO" ammo, you gotta be careful with some of that stuff in 9mm. The spec allows some really hot crap for subguns that have been designed to handle it. Well yes...and no. Old WWII surplus ammo (black tip) was really hot and should be reserved for subguns. There were others as well. Pressure specs for NATO ammo vary. Figures I've found are: SAAMI spec (to compare).....35,000 psi max.....38,500 +P max US M882 spec................31,175 psi avg.....36,250 max Other NATO..................37,000 psi to 42,000 psi max In other words if its US manufacture M882 NATO spec it should be safe. I'm guessing that most NATO countries now load toward the lower end of that max pressure and having a high presure round only for sub guns and a lower pressure one for pistols would be a logistical nightmare that can be easily avoided. I would be careful with foreign made NATO spec.

After alot of research almost all of the agencies require a degree, but they dont specify what type whether it be criminal justice or basket-weaving! Most agencies don't care. I was on just about the first PD to require 60 credits back in the 70s. I already had a BA but they didn't care in what as long as i had 60 credits. Someone mentioned the CIA. The CIA is not a LE agency it is an intelligence agency. What they are able to do in the US is very limited. Most of what the they do in the CIA would be considered very boring by most of us as 90%+ of intelligence is gathered overtly. They would require at least a 4 year degree and/or some extraordinary abilities to work there as their needs are constantly changing. language ability is a definite plus. The FBI traditionally looks for a degree in law or accounting but they have always had what they used to call their modified program which is a 4 year degree and some type of skills they have a use for. There are things like DOD, FBI, CIA, FPS, and other agency "police" which provide security to facilities. CBP has inspectors and there is also the Border Patrol under CBP along with an Air and Marine Branch. Federal Air Marshal's are under TSA. Investigator's jobs like DEA, ATF, ICE, Secret Service, Dept of Agriculture and other agencies have Special Agents. These are Criminal Investigators (job series 1811) and the only difference between them and a FBI Special Agent is the types of crime they investigate and most people would think working for the FBI is more prestigious. All of these jobs require at least a BA in anything english, history, one of the sciences, they really don't seem to care and I can't say a CJ degree would give you any edge. There is a plethora of federal agencies that have Special Agents including the Forest Service, Bureau of Marine Fisheries, and other agencies. I would expect it would take anywhere from a year or two from when you first apply and take a test to when you start working. I would suggest taking the first job offered as it is easier to get another once you are in the system. There is locality pay throughout the Federal government and one of the 1811 jobs after about 5 years would be paying about 115k a year in the New York/Newark area with some extra bennies you won't get with a local PD.

One exception: Federal government officials are allowed to use them by special permit in "sensitive" areas "to control nuisance or problem wildlife." While it might say this in NJ law it really doesn't make a difference if Federal officials are doing this in line of duty. Federal officials are not subject to state or local jurisdiction in performance of their duties. They could use a bazooka if that's what their agency uses.

Taurus is coming out with a 380 revolver.

I don't think they reapply cosmoline. New cosmoline doesn't have the patina old cosmo has. I think they remove enough to check function and tolerances and send it out. I've gotten SGs that were pretty clean so I suspect they were made up from parts of different Garands. I got a 1942 Remington 1903 that looked like the cosmo was on since...well 1942.

Reserves are almost always on Title 10 Federal orders while a significant percentage of Guardsman may be on Title 32 orders when they are away for training. I've been in both the Guard and Reserves and to my experience for 90 days you will be on Title 10 not 32 orders. The reason for this is under Title 32 the commander of the AD unit does not have penal authority over the servicemember. He or she can't give the person under Title 32 orders an Article 15 or court martial. If the violation is something not covered under civilian law (like AWOL) they can only send the servicemember home. I also did some more digging. It seems that if you are able to obtain a State ID from said state that is all you would need to purchase a handgun in this particular state. That would be true anywhere. Most states will ask to see you driver's license to issue a state ID. This would mean changing your DL over to that state. Of course, you would need to prove residency in order to obtain a State ID but that doesn't seem difficult at all. This would seem more like a case of "getting over on them" rather than establishing a legit residency. Such ideas usually make trobule for you. Whether you are PCS or TDY does not matter in this instance. You're mixing regulations again. What the state says is needed to obtain a state ID has nothing to do with the Federal law which says: A member of the Armed Forces on active duty is a resident of the State in which his or her permanent duty station is located. Note "permanent duty station". This is the residence requirement ATF requires. What constitutes a "resident" has different meanings for different reasons within the Federal government. ATF, IRS, Census bureau all define resident differently. In other words, you could be TDY but if you decided to live off-post at your own expense and could prove such, you can still claim residency in that state. What you are talking about here has nothing to do being in the military. If you have a residence in two states anyone can buy a handgun in either state when are residing there. I don'y think ATF would consider "establishing" a residence for 90 days as making you a resident of that state It sounds to me that your "friend" would be establishing this residence solely for the purpose of being able to buy a handgun in that state. It also seems like a lot of trobule and expense to do so. It is not a permanent change of station as ATF requires.

You seem a little naive. Don't offer cops access to your gear. Far from naive. I was a Federal and Local LEO for over 31 years. I speculate I have a little bit more experience conducting searches, developing probable cause for arrests or warrants, and applying for and serving search warrants than you do. Cops have a bad habit of confiscating your stuff "just in case" and then saying you gave them permission. I've worked in maybe 20 states during my time and many times along with local LEOs some I have a little knowledge of how things are done on the local level. What you describe constitutes filing a false report at the least or perjury when done in conjunction with a court. I haven't met many LEOs willing to risk their job or freedom by lying. Those that have have at least lost their jobs or at the other end did a stretch in prison. They are cops, you have guns, law has no meaning. The law has plenty of meaning perhaps this is just your view of it which you are entitled to have. Don't offer cops access to your gear. Please show me where I said that? I said: Why would you invite them to your safe? If they ask to see something for some reason you tell them wait at the door and get what they want to see. If they have a warrant covering anything that could be in your safe you will have to open it or they will get it opened somehow Quote If you have paperwork showing you acquired everything legally and the guns were not listed in a search warrant they cannot seize them and more importantly why would they? If you let them in your safe they can seize them WITHOUT a search warrant. Under what authority? The fact that they do it all the time and they write the report. No other authority required. Okay you still haven't explained why they would seize all your guns from your home without a warrant if you have paperwork showing you legally acquired them. The only reason I see that being done is a DV issue or there is another crime involved. LEOs don't further their careers by making illegal seizures or arrests that won't stand up in court. There are jerks that become LEOs as there are jerks in all walks of life. The difference is most jerks who become LEOs are not LEOs long. There are other professions that weed out the bad but you can be a jerk in many professions forever. If "they do it all the time" could you provide a few examples that have happened in the past week or so where the police seized all of someone's guns for no reason? This is most likely happening at least hundreds of times a week if what you say is true.

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A member of the Armed Forces on active duty is a resident of the State in which his or her permanent duty station is located. This is the answer to your question. He is not on PCS only TDY orders. He can't legally buy a handgun in that other state. That 90 day tour is not a permanent change of station. Last I knew the military classified assignments over 26 weeks as PCS, less was TDY. I have been in both situations during my Reserve time and could only buy handguns if I was on PCS orders. The ATF FAQ are really pretty clear on that. Don't mix the 90 day residency requirement for LPRs with the military issues.

A somewhat weak case could be made for Criminal Mischief, but that's about it, and it would be a Perry Disorderly Persons offense at that. Is there still "Tampering with a Motor vehicle" in Title 39? This would fit the circumstances described. Much easier to prove as its 39 and not criminal.

The copies are merely evidence that you have applied for and received a FID. The copy doesn't prove anything only the original FID card. No where in the statutes does a copy of a FID get you anything. Police can check if you have a FID with name, dob, ssn, and the SBI number helps if you have a very common name. If you are transporting long guns in a situation where you need a FID you need the FID not a copy. Whatever you do, don't put any of those originals in your gun safe. If you get called out by a bunch of cops or a judge and have to open your safe to show them your papers they will take all of your guns and equipment. Yes, I know cops and judges can get in your safe. But, if you invite them into your safe, they will for certain take all your **** while they are in there. I agree you should not keep them in your safe but for different reasons. The paperwork (P2P,long gun COE and/or receipt) would prove ownership if the guns are stolen. I really don't understand what you mean by "called out by a bunch of cops or a judge". Why would you invite them to your safe? If they ask to see something for some reason you tell them wait at the door and get what they want to see. If they have a warrant covering anything that could be in your safe you will have to open it or they will get it opened somehow. If you have paperwork showing you acquired everything legally and the guns were not listed in a search warrant they cannot seize them and more importantly why would they?

Liberty State Park, Staten Island Ferry to Battery Park, Statue of Liberty, Ellis Island If you decide you want to do this Liberty Science Center has a triple header ticket, LSC, Statue of Liberty, and Ellis island for $25 each. Keep in mind that to go into the base or crown of Statue of Liberty thats a special ticket. These tickets are usually not available for months ahead of time.

I have seen S&W and Glock make a new gun with the old serial number in the past when they were replacing the entire gun but don't know if they still do this.

Maybe a deed of sale. Anything else? Is there a serial number check or gun history verification much like vehicles? No "deed" required AFAIC as the P2P meets that criteria. I imagine that the NJSP or local police check the serial number when they get their part of the P2P. NJSP search their database when they get their part of a P2P. If the handgun is there they transfer it to the new owner.

I would be hard-pressed to believe that they were fulfilling the role of a QRF, which, yes, could be fulfilled by any line unit. A reaction force can be a line unit or special ops personnel. It depends on who is closest and ready to go. This is like sending 30 Delta in a chopper to rescue Rangers. Based on what I said above this could happen. You don't let others die because you want to save your "valuable" troops.

I've given this some thought and this would make all the people who assemble ARs from parts "manufacturers". This has to be common knowledge that people do this with the number of stripped lowers that are sold.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but why would Navy Seals be on a Chinook? I thought the Navy used the CH-53 for heavy troop movements? Chinooks are most likely from the 160 Special Operations Aviation Regiment (an Army unit) who generally do the rotary wing stuff in SOCOM.

As for SEALs being ground-pounders, that's a role they've played since the get-go of OEF. Ground ops has been a SEAL role since their inception. Rudy Boesch (from the first Survivor) is possibly the longest serving SEAL (along with their forerunners). He started with the Amphibious Scouts and Raiders at the tail end of WWII and IIRC was the most senior NCO in the SEALs since they started (1961?). Rudy's last job IIRC was Senior Enlisted Advisor for Special Operations Command retiring after 45 years in the special ops business.

It's all about the money. Its not about money its about control. Its about legislators making a law to make you come to them to ask permission. That $2 you pay for the pistol permit hardly pays for the clerk's time to type it out (that's also a good one still using typewriters in the 21st Century).

BTW, who are these cops asking all sorts of unrelated questions? If you are being pulled over, there is probably a reason why, and unless that reason is they think you are carrying illegal weapons or something, why are they asking you irrelevant questions? It is called establishing rapport and may determine how the rest of the meeting is going to go. Avoid answering any questions unrelated to the stop. Say things like "I'm sorry?" "Pardon me" "Excuse me?" and other phrases, not in a questioning manner, but more of a confused I don't think I heard you manner. Yes you can do that but after the 3rd or 4th "Excuse me" the cop will obviously realize you are being evasive. Is your confusion due to the fact you are trying to hide something or maybe you're under the influence of something or maybe because you are an idiot. I have met all three types. If you seem evasive about answering that can result in lengthening the time you're going to spend on that stop. If they are persistent, or don't like your answer, be direct with them. Ask them if you are being detained. Ask them if you are free to go. Yes you can ask them all that and respond accordingly. the cop really doesn't have to tell you why he is asking those questions as it is the beginning of an investigation. Contrary to what many gun rights activists feel most (like 99.9999999%) of cops are not out there to bust your chops. They are trying to do what they are getting paid for and that's apprehending lawbreakers. In order to do so that have to ask questions. If they are satisfied then you will be on your way shortly whether you are a criminal or not. Many criminals have gotten away with alot of things just by being cool and having good answers for the cops when they are stopped. Cops are looking for things to arrest people for that will result in a conviction. a lot of arrests with no convictions is not a way to enhance their career. I am not saying to volunteer the information that you have guns in the car but answer properly if you do. The more evasive you are the more you are going to get the cop's interest. Yes there are bad encounters but when you look at the ones posted on You Tube vs the thousands that happen daily the likleihood of being involved in one is low. However, you can outfit yourself with voice and video recorders if you feel that's needed. So here is the question, if what KpdPipes says is true, then would it not follow that if you inform a LEO that you have firearms in the trunk, which also must be unloaded, wouldn't reasonable suspicion then appear that those firearms may be loaded allowing for a subsequent search to check that the firearms are, in fact, unloaded? That would depend on what case law there is on that matter and not being up to date on NJ case law I'd go with KpdPipes on this as it sounds reasonable. I know in PA if you are OCing the police can't stop you for that alone even in Philly where you are supposed to have a LTCF to OC. For a routine traffic stop by a LEO, I would think the odds that the officer would ever check your trunk is EXTREMELY rare, I would think. Very true. However if you give evasive answers that can contribute to PC to look in the trunk.