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I have two 669 Taurus revolvers the adj sight version of the 65, a blued 4" made in 1988 and a stainless 6" made in 1992. The 6" I bought used from a friend. It was his only handgun for several years and he said he at least 10,000 rds through it (mostly 38s) and he never had any problems with it. I put at least 5000 magnums (mostly 125 gr) and a lot more 38s (mostly +P or +P+)through the 4". The only problem I had was about 10 years ago when I was banging off magnums and the rear sight mounting screw came loose and the rear sight flew off into the grass. Taurus replaced it at no cost other than shipping with about a 2 week turnaround. Taurus triggers are not as smooth as a S&W or Ruger but nothing you can't work with. I like to compare my Taurus experience with a S&W Model 19 I bought in 74 or 75 that suffered severely from flamecutting and going out of time after not more than 2000 rds of magnums. Am I saying Taurus is better than S&W? No I'm saying my Taurus is better than that Smith I had. I also have a Taurus 85 since 1988 with no problems and lots of rounds out of it. Do I trust the Taurus? That's what I've been carrying lately so that should answer the question. I wouldn't hesitate to buy a Taurus that met one of my real or made up needs.

4-5 per pistol I use on a regular basis. 6 is better. 20 is insane. At the price of some magazines now you can buy another gun for the price of 10-15 magazines. Another gun is better than a lot of magazines for one.

Switching to jacketed 38s will have the same effect though. its not due to switching calibers. Well yes...and no. Jacketed 38s can have the same effect but are less likely to damage the gun at 17-20000 psi. The 357 runs at 35,000 max pressure so it would be much more likely to damage the gun than 38s.

I use a boresnake 3-4 times for a quick clean and to minimize any muzzle wear on a gun you can't clean from the breech like a M1. I suppose you could do a really good clean witha boresnake but you'd need a few of them to swap off as they got dirty.

Now, if your 38 rounds excessivly lead the bore, than its a different problem, but thats not due to switching to 357 What I said was if you switch to 357s after shooting 38s that have excessively leaded the bore you will create an excess pressure situation. Contrary to what some believe the jacketed 357 round will not "clean out" the lead. It will try to compress the lead which basic physics doesn't allow. If enough pressure builds up it will split the barrel.

I have fired at least 100,000 38s in a 357 and probably 80% of that lead bullets. You really have to be doing something wrong to get the carbon/lead buildup from 38s to interfere with 357s. Lousy bullets, poor cleaning or whatever. I shoot 38's first then 357's to clean out the bore. Makes cleaning easier. This is not a good idea. If you have that much lead build up (obstruction)in the bore you will be raising the pressure of that 357 round a lot more than a carbon ring in the cylinder which can vent pressure out faster and in more directions. I'm not saying you will blow up your revolver....but it might.

You are required to retreat from a non-lethal confrontation in NJ. We all know there are situations where you can't and have to defend yourself. In any case don't throw the first punch. Yeah, you may have to spot the jerk a shot at you. You need to establish you were defending yourself. Avoidence is best but we also know sometimes that's not possible. There is no standard procedure I know of and each event depends on the totality of the situation.

So, is there a delay from the time you pull the trigger to the time it actually fires? If it's a flintlock there is a short delay. If its percussion there is no discernable delay.

Not so funny. When blackpowder guns were coming back into the vogue in the late 60s early 70s they were unregulated in NJ just like most other places. Some guy bought a BP revolver and used it to pull a hold up and....that's how BP came to be regulated in NJ.

rear sight, move in the direction you want impact to go, to go right to the right etc front sight move opposite you want impact to go, to go down raide sight up

"what handguns work for people with smaller hands" because thats all i am really looking for. 30 people telling me to have her shoot and decide herself isnt much of a help as that's just common sense. haha I think too much is made of the fit of the hand thing. There is a 4'-10", 85 lb agent I worked with who carrie a Glock 17 and later a 19 because that's what the agency told her she had to carry. She is one of the best shots in the office. If you want to learn to shoot something well you will if you try hard enough. Anyone can quickly improve their grip strength (including trigger finger strength) with a rubber ball or hand exerciser. My wife is tiny and likes K frame over J frame size revolvers for two reasons. Number 1 is because there is more to hang on to with the bigger grip. Number 2 the gun is heavier and absorbs recoil better. She rather shoot 25 rds and then take a break from supporting the gun weight and then continue to shoot. If she were to use a lighter gun she'd shoot 25 rds and call it a day from fighting recoil.

However, Section 926 clearly requires the traveler to part ways with his weapon and ammunition during travel; This is not so. You are covered by FOPA if you are a PA resident travelling through NJ to go to Maine via I95 through NJ, NY, CT, MA, RI, and NH. As long as your weapon is legal at the start and finish and you keep it conatined as outlined by FOPA there is no requirement to part ways with your weapons and ammo.

Correct me if im wrong but i believe there is no such thing as open carry in a car. A gun in a car constitutes being concealed.... That depends on the state law. You are correct in PA there is no open carry in a car, that would be concealed. I lived in AZ in the late 70s, early 80s when they had no carry permits and the only way you could carry was open carry. At that time you had to open carry or keep the gun in a "normal storage compartment" in a car. It seems some are surprised that state law applies to anyone in that state. Just as anyone can be arrested in NJ for an "assault weapon" (unless it's an out of state resident travelling under FOPA), anyone can open carry in PA (within their restrictions). I go on a PA forum often and it seems to me that there are some who open carry in places that are legal but looking for confrontation (open carry in a bar or the airport). State laws, as far as firearms carry go, apply to anyone in that state. In many states you can carry that shotgun loaded in the rack in your pickup but not NJ. If you are from NJ you can carry concealed without a permit in Vermont, Alaska, or Arizona as long as you comply with any restrictions.

If a prosecutor is pursuing the type and caliber of weapon you used to defend yourself that is the least of your worries as your problem is much bigger than that. If someone is shot, they're shot; if they're dead, they're dead. The end result is the same if you use a NJ compliant AR or an evil one with a flash surpressor and bayonet stud (your problem there would be the "assault rifle"). A prosecutor is not going to be able to make a case based solely on what kind of weapon and ammo you used. Using handloads can influence your case as has been discussed elsewhere but even in that situation you are standing trial because there are other problems. I'm talking criminal cases here. The fact you wore a green shirt can be used against you in a civil case. There is also a lot of common sense things that you need to consider civilly. If someone invades your home and you use the 500 S&W that is closest to you nad loaded that's one thing. If you had a carry permit and choose a 500 S&W as your everyday carry gun (I have seen people say this on other forums) that's another.

I'm the 4th or 5th to say this but it is better for her to make the selection. Put the shoe on the otehr foot, how would you like it if she was picking a handgun for you?

Only NJ and one other state (Michigan?) consider bb guns firearms.

The receiver is teh part that is serial numbered and is considered the firearm in the US. Many countries consider the barrel the firearm that's why Glocks and others have serial numbers on the barrel.

Has this passed? Obama signed off on these amendments in October. What about the $50 that goes in the state's pockets that out-of-staters don't have to pay? Not to mention qualifying costs. If you meet the LEOSA requirements you don't have to pay to carry in 44 other states. I have read the NJ AG's opinion retired LEOs who are NJ residents must get a carry permit from NJ. I think there would be problems prosecuting a retired LEO NJ resident who met all the requirements of LEOSA and didn't get a NJ permit. The NJ AG's opinion seems to be contrary to Federal law on this issue.

I thought Dubya said that about the AWB? Yes he did. He did so knowing it wouldn't happen with the Republican Congress then in power. It probably got him a few more votes. That's why they call it politics.

length has no bearing on legality... can you intelligently convey to the officer your legitimate use? This is true. There was a case a few years ago where some guy was arrested coming back from some beach (not sure which) and he had a machete in his Jeep (no real place to secure it). He claimed he was using to cut firewood. He was arrested for possession of a weapon. He had people testify he was using it to cut firewood and he was found not guilty. He sure went through a lot for a fire on the beach. http://knife-expert.com/ny.txt It appears NY knife laws are as vague as NJ's.

The problem with libertarian views on drugs, prostitution, and "anything that has no effect on me" laws is it comes to the point for anyone to agree lines need to be drawn and laws made. If a 30 year old wants to have sex with a consenting 15 year old should the government get involved. If homeboy gets out of prison after serving 14 years on his life sentence he got for killing 3 people in a driveby he needs to own whatever weapons he wants to protect himself. After all he should have 2A rights. If one drug dealer kills another drug dealer maybe he shouldn't be charged as he performed a public service? many people who get involved in street level dealing are jobless.. poor.. and in some cases inner city.. there is poverty... the sale of crack is seen as an instant fix for the financial problems.. so it is a never ending cycle.. I have heard these arguments for over 40 years. I haven't been insulated from the drug thing and spent over 30 years as an LEO having been involved in enforcing drug laws on all levels. People get involved in the drug business because they want to make money. many have no ambition but to make money the easy way. I have never met any street dealer who was dealing to save for tutition to Harvard. I have also seen people with advanced degrees get involved in the drug business because it was easier to make big money. People in the drug business want to make a lot of money without having to work too hard. This drug raid in Point Pleasant were dealers not street users. A pound and a half of grass exceeds personal use. States that have decriminalized marijuana still arrest dealers. I don't care what my stance gives anti-gun people in the way of arguments... my stance is made in logic not in making friends or winning elections.. This is precisely why Libertarians are not a significant political faction. We are logical and everyone else is wrong. Libertarians are great thinkers and everyone else is stupid. I have seen this for over 40 years. You need to make a convincing argument to win people over to your side of anything. Your stats on causes of death seem biased. That hooker who died from AIDS she contracted while supporting her drug habit doesn't have illicit drug activity as cause of death on her death certificate. If I'm tripping on LSD, get in a mv accident, get my head cut off, my certificate says decapitation. You can make links like this in virtually every category. You also need to consider the percentage of the population engaged in the activities listed. You are all missing the point here guys. This dude had a BB GUN. And it was FULLY LOADED. Yes...the point... BB gun = firearm in NJ, firearm + some specified (drug) offense in NJ = mandatory sentence. The state legislature removed mandatory sentencing for many drug offenses earlier this year. If the NJSP want these people to give someone else up they need something to bargain with.

You know what.... I say scrap it all and go simple. The only concession I make is to the FID card, which I dont think is that bad of an idea. At least it makes people take a safety course. you will notice no exceptions, nor arbritary limitations. This list was lifted almost verbatim from the Texas Gun Laws. As they say... plagiarism is the most sincere form of flattery..........design, manufacture, marketing, or sale of firearms or ammunition to the public. Aitken was charged with illegal possession of firearm (due to transportation), hi cap magazines, and hollowpoints. You start out well by saying go simple but go on to address CCW, NFA weapons and other issues. Copying Texas gun laws just goes to show that because Tx is a gun friendly state doesn't mean all their laws are sensible. You list all those places that carry is prohibited in TX. In NJ there is only two by law for people with a permit, schools and courthouses. Any place else can keep you out as private property. It's up to the property owner to decide if they want you carrying or not. If they don't want me having a beer at Great Adventure while carrying they won't let me in (they won't let off duty LEOs carry there now). To make it simple: 1. Adopt provisions of FOPA as I stated in my earlier post. 2. Change the hollowpoint and hi cap magazine laws by adding "during the commission of a crime". I could live with that.

Hollow points and magazine capacity are seperate issues from the transportation of firearms. In order to have change it should be palatable to all sides. Rather than try to reinvent the wheel the transportation requirements of the Firearms Owner's Protection Act would be reasonable (unloaded inaccessible from passenger compartment or locked container/gun lock). If the gun is unloaded and properly contained you could leave it in your car forever. Arguments for this would be: 1. Meets requirements of Federal law. 2. Meets requirements of at least 80% of the states.

My life is worth more than 1k gun, so if 1k buys me a gun that is 100% reliable with a proven track record, then that's what I'm getting. I just threw $1k out there but we all know we could get cheaper that are reliable (glock, m&p, XD etc..) Glad you threw that last sentence in there. I have a S&W Model 10 that I paid $50 for and it's as reliable as anything else out there and I have carried it as a duty gun. Personally, I wouldn't have a Taurus anything on my side. I hear Taurus and I think of Ray Ray's Charter Arms debackle. I asscosiate the two in the same catergory for some reason. Albeit, I have never shot one and I doubt I will. Well a Charter ain't a Taurus that's for sure. Yours is a typical comment of a Taurus hater. I have three revolvers and 2 semiautos (purchased between 1988 and 2006) and don't hestitate to carry any of them for SD. the 4" 669 I bought in 88 or 89 has proven to be more durable than a 1974 S&W M19 (yeah pinned and recessed and all that) that lasted me 5 years before the flame cutting and timing told me to get rid of it. Oh yeah, I'll still buy a S&W.

And how many man hours were put into this raid to net 12,000 dollars worth of marijuana? Lets see. Probably 20 people minimum. Average Salary - $75,000 Minimum 3 weeks getting ready. 120 Man hours $36.00 / Per Hour / 20 people = $86,400.00 I can assure you the NJSP didn't spend anywhere near your calculations. There were one or two troopers assigned to the case and they worked on this along with their other cases over the three weeks. There were maybe 20 (more likely 10) when they did the warrant...tied up with this for a few hours. You seem to think that locking up two drug dealers is all bs and NJSP has 20 troopers to hang around for three weeks. allowing my mom to drink herself to death on LEGAL alcohol.. I know that legalizing drugs seems really extreme.. So your solution is to make more substances legal to kill themselves with? I see a lot of libertarians on gun forums bring up legalization of drugs. I don't think that helps the 2A cause with the fence sitters and gives anti-gunners "ammunition". Somehow "Gun Owners for Legal Drugs" doesn't help the cause.