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BOLO for stolen bath tubs?

How bad is the leading? After 50 rds,100,200? Common causes of leading are: 1. Loads too hot for the hardness of the bullet. 2. Bullet undersize 3. Loads not hot enough (usually with HBWCs) I've always found Hoppes #9 to work for cleaning after lead bullets.

they are not okay simply because the federal law is silent What I said is they are a non-issue with LEOSA. I didn't say they were okay I said they may or may not be in NJ as LEOSA says: Notwithstanding any other provision of the law of any State or any political subdivision thereof, an individual who is a qualified retired law enforcement officer,,,, Notwithstanding means In spite of, even if, without regard to or impediment by other things. Does this mean hi cap mags and hollowpoints are legal. It may or not mean that. LEOSA goes on to say:

Now that being said....308 and 30-06 bullets are the same. Yes and no. You can shoot them in one another but bullets designed for 308 have the cannelure closer to the nose of the bullet as they are seated deeper. If you buy bulk bullets designed to be loaded in 7.62 NATO and load them to OAL of M2 Ball for a Garand the cannelure will be above the case mouth. Seating them deeper may degrade accuracy and increase throat erosion. Pressure will go down as the bullet will start to move earlier unencumbered by the resistance of the rifling. The 10FP is in 308 so what I said really shouldn't apply but if you want the best answer call Sierra: http://www.sierrabullets.com/index.cfm?section=techservice&page=ballistictech

Apparently the issue with NJ is M1 carbines sold to NJ residents at the North or South store here's the latest link: http://www.thecmp.org/forums/showthread ... post104807

I didn't realize they'd added that last line I haven't got a rifle from CMP for about a year. I've been buying from CMP for sometime. I always sent them my military id and NJ FID card when I updated my credentials as those two documents cover everything. They always used to ask for FIDs and I sent the FID without looking at the requirements the past few years. Orest is right about only having to worry about federal law as CMP's charter is unique. If they took out the FID requirement I never noticed but it's there now.

Re: Problem with CMP shipping to NJ? Quote: I sent the CMP a copy of my NJ FID. They needed it to process my order. That's a new one too. In the past Orest said explicitly that it wasn't required. When did Orest say that? This is from their list of requirements. You can just go to the last line. If you buy from a FFL out of state they need to see your FID (most will copy it). Be Legally Eligible to Purchase a Firearm: The information you supply on your application will be submitted by the CMP to the FBI National Instant Criminal Check System (NICS) to verify you are not prohibited by Federal, State or Local law from acquiring or possessing a rifle. Your signature on the Purchaser Certification portion of the purchase application authorizes the CMP to initiate the NICS check and authorizes the FBI to inform CMP of the result.IMPORTANT: If your State or locality requires you to first obtain a license, permit, or Firearms Owner ID card in order to possess or receive a rifle, you must enclose a photocopy of your license, permit, or card with the application for purchase

Don't know if anyone is still following this, but Orest stated he has a meeting with NJ Attorney General today over the issue. Sounds like meeting will determine if CMP can still mail rifles directly to your home or if it would have to go through FFL. I can't see what NJ's issue is with CMP. A NJ resident can go buy a rifle from an out of state FFL in most states. You really can't expand your state law past your borders but NJ apparently thinks it might be able to.

The law only protects the firearm--high capacity magazines or hollow point ammunition are still off limits for off duty officers carrying in other states. That depends on who is interpreting it and as the law is relatively new there have only been a few test cases. If there is no law regarding hollowpoints or magazine capacity in that state, say Pennsylvania, off duty and retired officers can carry any kind of ammo they want in any capacity magazine. If there is a law regarding magazine capacity or hollowpoints, like NJ, that off duty officer may or may not be in violation depending on how a judge interprets LEOSA. Some will contend that LEOSA only covers "the carrying of the firearm" but if you read the entire law it covers a lot of other things. The law says: SEC. 3. EXEMPTION OF QUALIFIED RETIRED LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS FROM STATE LAWS PROHIBITING THE CARRYING OF CONCEALED FIREARMS. (a) IN GENERAL.

The Law Enforcement Officers Safety Act (LEOSA aka HR218 when it was a bill in the house) allows active and retired LEOs to carry anywhere in the country (including Puerto Rico, Guam, and any place else owned by the U.S. There are not many restrictions. Google LEOSA for details. In their own jurisdictions LEOs carry with statutory authority and don't need carry permits.

Apparently it is not bullpuckey in Ocean County. The post I quoted was from Bayville and the incidents I'm aware of were in Ocean County. This may be a county by county thing as someone mentioned Camden Co stopped taking firearms. When I was a municipal police officer (left 1978 to go to a federal job) we kept all guns in our evidence room. I had an incident where a girl took her father's car after he had come back from hunting in PA and he had left his rifle in the trunk. He went to take a nap and she took the car without knowing the rifle was still in the trunk and got in an accident. The rifle was found in the trunk along with other hunting stuff when we were inventorying the car to be towed. I took her and the rifle home and lectured her father about leaving the gun in the car and left it at that. But that was me and in the 70s.

They were taken by the township police & turned over to the county. Not sure if local police are capabale/willing to hold onto firearms for any period of time. All guns that come into police custody for whatever reason get turned over to the Prosecutor's Office for dispostion.

I would strongly consider shipping it to yourself by UPS or Fedex, or through a local FFL to an FFL at your destination. There is too much that can go wrong between NY and NJ firearms laws. Don't know about UPS but FEDEX won't let you ship a gun to yourself. A FFL at your destination can't transfer a gun to you unless you are resident of that state. I'd drive.

Okay a dealer can possess the gun and only transfer it to a LE agency with the evil features. The magazines must be permanently (means welding or shortening) limited to 15 rds. Pinning isn't going to get it. Stock swap is easy. It would seem you could buy a NJ compliant firearm easier. What kind of rifle is it?

Going to a FMJ would help but Shane has it right.

That's at least $100 less than any new one I've seen. I don't have a lot of experience with Kahrs but the NYPD guys I know were impressed with it. It is about the only non-big name pistol authorized for off duty by NYPD last I looked. Good deal!

No Comment! Just the kind of thing that needs to be remembered in November! Federal judges are appointed by the president. It would be interesting to research who appointed the judges that came to this decision.

We should all call in about gun control reform, during ask the Governor. Christie needs to attack fiscal issues first. That's everyone concerned. Gun people in NJ are another special interest group not something that concerns everyone. Let him get the money stuff on it's way to be straightened out before he does something positive for gun owners.

SKS okay. Any with any kind of detachable magazine not okay. Specifically listed as an assault weapon.

never been in any trouble but had a brain fart and decided to hold up a gas station Come on, deciding to hold up a gas station is much more than a brain fart! Did the kid plea bargain? Was he prosecuted as a juvenile or adult? We all did stupid things, some we might have been arrested for, but armed robbery is far from being a playful youth. I remember a few years ago a bunch of guys were "fooling around" pulling up in their car and shooting people with a BB gun. They all got 3 years and deserve it AFAIC. Most add on charges can be negotiated away with plea bargaining. It all depends on what the defendant's record is and how strong a case the prosecution has.

10 years seems a little extreme, unless one of us were on the jury, lmfao.. if all they were prosecuting him for was that, seems a bit harsh, why not just take his FID and guns away? that is harmful enough. Under the system in NJ he will probably be out in 4 years or less. It looks like Morris County made the case and there was no reason for ATFE to prosecute. No reason to steal cases form other agenciesThere is more than enough of this stuff going around. If he was making 20 the US Attorney's Office most likely would have taken the case. The fact is even though he was convicted in a NJ court he could still be tried in a Federal court. PS If he was moving them across state lines ATFE would probably have done the case as Morris County has no jurisdiction in anything he did outside of NJ. I can guarantee there was an ATFE agents riding along on this case.

He made a plea agreement and sentencing is usually part of it. As long as he agreed to plea guilty to the aggravated assault the other charge will be dropped. Not unusual. speeds things through the system.

Um, what else they got? Good question. Let us have first crack at what else they want ti get rid of.

I would never eat anything out of that water, especially things that stay on the bottem like crabs or fish. I grew up in Elizabeth and used to see guys swimming in the Arthur Kill. Never really cared to go swimming in water that smelled bad. One of the ways they determine how polluted water is is by the free oxygen level. 30 years ago the free oxygen level in the Arthur Kill was ZERO. Nothing could live there. I ran into someone from NOAA at work about 15 years ago. They were colleting water samples and catching fish. They told me the water there was getting better and evidence was there was fish living there. She didn't say she would eat the fish. Maybe in 50 years the Kill might clean itself up but not in my lifetime.

I have one for over 25 years. Totally reliable and very accurate (if you take the time to use the sights) pistol. I have several 25s and it's my favorite. No it's not a magnum or 45 but no one wants to get shot even with 25.