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Wow... everybody gave the humurous bashes already and left me with almost nothing to say. That vid is dribble. If it was on paper I would wipe my a** with it. 1)These guys actually have no idea what a real world ccw is supposed to be. 2) If their concept of safety and proper testing is to be believed, then a jeep is a better overall automobile then a bmw. 3) I hope nobody EVER thinks it is a good idea to shoot a weapon that has been in the dirt without first completing a field strip. All these sand and water tests on firearms are stupid, irrellevant and just plain unsafe. 4) A SIG Target model is a hell of a different beast from a Military 1911 as designed by JMB. Tolerances are much tighter for accuracy shooting. That SIG is not intended for a dirt role.... my TACOPS might be. The Glock is deisgned for it. So is a Beretta, should they have not tested the G19 vs the M9.

4596 is the 1990 era Lew Horton designed all steel semi auto, a full size single stack .45acp frame mated to a 3 3/4" slide from the 4516 model for concealability. Supposedly a great gun, like most S&W steel guns are... but it battles directly with commander style 1911s and never caught on. Some people liked the safety location, I never could get used to it on the gen3 S&W autos, the safety/decocker was confusing in stressful situations. Up for fire, donw for safe, more down to decock. Plus the DA pulls were less then great, the SA pulls were good though. Try the S&W forum for info... I dont recall ever seeing one for sale on a forum. I would say the worth would be about +/-$700 to a S&W collector.

Drifter... what have done to earn support here. Your experience as a Vet gets you a thank you, my personal gratitidue and beer in the right situation. Here... you have to come with some knowledge and articulate it well or you will get slammed, hard. There are many vets on this board and the ones that have lost the "I have seen the elephant what have you ever done?" attitudes are some of the best member here. Sit back, keep your fingers off the keyboard for awhile and read. HPs a 100% legal and if a store decided not to sell, that is their perogative. RayCo makes no bones about it, they want to deal in hunting firearms and not black rifles. I can see them making this decision as fitting into their paradigm. But to pass on the "...they are illegal" mantra BS, is wrong and should be identified for what it is. I like RayCo alot, but I know what I am getting their. same as with any of the other shops in the area. They deserve the -1 for this issue. By the way, HPs out of .22lr are proven to be more accurate also. I have a ton of HP, I like the Win Dynapoints in some of the 22s I have owned. Especially bolt guns. Proven hunting round for small game, pest control and target shooting. Whats not to like... only the ignorance of some people concerning there usage.

hmmm.... not defending them, but I have never found them to be anything but knowledgable and helpful. Next time there I will make same request and post their response.

ILLEGALWEAPON!!!!!!!!

I put 100rds through my tacops last night at an outdoor range in the Kanawha State Forest, Charleston WV. LOVE IT... no issues further. I have heard that the ACT or cCheckmate Mags that come with the gun are not always great. I have no issues with my four, but I did pick up 4 more Chip McCormicks. Funn that possible Checkmate mags would have issues... the ones In had for my M1A were the most robust mags I have EVER held. They were built like tanks and never stumbled.

good choice... same as tacops except for finish, grip panels, trigger style (curved vs flat) and you get more mags with tacops!

To the OP..... I have a SIG TacOPS I have about 250 rds through. I personally love this gun because it came with a bevy of anhancements that I require as a lefty. ambi safety lever, rail, beveled magwell, combat night sites. I did have to eat the 80's series fps, but that is a small trade off. The firearm comes with 4 mags, a nice case and has no bling on it. it is flat, business black. It shoots great. No issues so far except my own stupididty. Dont use mags without mag pads with this gun, they will not insert all the way and drop out on you when you go to chamber a round. Sort of embarrassing..... I shopped for about 3 months before ordering. I passed SA offerings because I have had two before and while nice, I just wanted something more and I felt the SIG gave more value and options then the SA Loaded for about the same money. I also shopped higher end Kimbers and SA TRP as examples... I once again felt the SIG gave better value for the money. One thing that really tuned me to the SIG was shooting a coworkers E3 one night ...it was accurate and the recoil was negligible.Trigger weights about 4 pds and is not gritty or sticky. try one.

highly recommend the 452. great rifle light years ahead of the savage in terms of quality and value.

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I agree on almost 100% on two of your three points, Fn is first and foremost a LE/MIL supplier, but for some reason I dont see this as an issue as long as they treat their civy consumers well, which they do and unlike HK, Steyr and some small boutique manufacturers. The pricing on the ACR is out of touch and has been, but if Rem is having to ramp up for mil contracts and they are planning on a 5yr (I dont know) business plan to payback ramp up costs... then that is the cost. It wont sell, and will stagnate, Rem wont listen to focus groups and then they will complain that nobody likes their rifle and drop it. Shame on them. The SCAR is a MUCH better rifle then the ACR and should command more money. Glocks = Toyota Trucks, ACR = Audi sedans, SCAR = Bugatti Veyron

Guys... great discussion and I have learned alot. I am not in the manufacturing field but come from a CS or client services background. One thing I would like to comment on right away is DA's point that FN does not care about the civy market. As an FN customer over the years I strongly object. Sure they market heavily to Le/MIL, that is a large if not largest chunk of their market base. But FN has always, always been about the civilian shooter. It is part of their corporate culture. The are heavily invested in civy shooting comps, multi media and outreach. Want to have fun, go to their corp facility in Columbia and get a tour. Put in a handgun order to be later shipped to your FFL, and watch its main components get manufactured on the assembly lines. That is customer service. I like to equate rifles to vehicles. The same economics that price an auto/truck price a firearm. IP, manufacturing costs, labor, shipping, licensing, etc etc. A Hyundai Genesis 4.6 is about the equaivalent feature wise as the s400 mercedes-benz. Is the hyaundai worth 50K verus the S's 100K price.... yep. Is it equal... no. Is the MB overvalued... you betya'! Is it worth it... in the long run yes. Will the mercedes still look the same, feel the same, drive the same and invoke appreciative glances 20yrs from now if maintained, Yep. Will the Hyundai if maintained to equal levels? Doubtful.

welcome to my nightmare! I moved here from georgia 6 years ago and i about hate every second since. I went hunting many weekends and had my ccw. it's funnier I feel more persecuted now that I'm living underneath all these rules in nj.

pete... there is more to this story. I lived over 20 years in georgia, traveled all over the south and southeast into deep rural areas and only once did I ever feel unsafe and that was because I stumbled on a meth lab. maybe the play here is a go to college in louisiana, it's cheaper to read the tuition is cheaper and u will really be able to get to meet people from the area

+1 to what njpilot states. I spent 6mos in lafayette after katrina and loved it and the people. the rednecks up north were fun, coon asses more so, swamp cajuns scary funny. be prepared to alter your ways of thinking completely and do ever say "well in nj we did it this way." your pov will not be appreciated.

google noaa goes satellite images or noaa space weather prediction center.

Ready... this is how boring my job can be. A G1 Geomagnetic is a minor status resulting in weak power grid fluctuations, minor impact on sats, some impact on avians and high lat aurora borealis visibility. A S3 Solar Radiation Storm can have effect on plane passengers at high lats and high altitudes, might cause some sat ops to degrade, can effect navigational positioning and will effect HF radio propagation in polar regions. This is a non-event. Next year will be busier... prob in the summer time.

Is having a safe providing access????? If I dont share the safes combination or keys... is that still considered providing access because of proximity?

Paul... this is family. Do I now have to turn family away from staying with me because I have firearms. Have we become so so suspicious of tyrany here in NJ that we have to turn on our own blood. This is beyond ridiculous. Here is the situation that bothers me. My SIL left her husband a few years ago. She came to live with us for 6 mos. If he, my ex BIL filed a TRO, I would have lost my firearms because I did the right thing and let my SIL into my home instead of making her go to a flophouse or spend money she did not have on a apartment. And since TROs are given out like friggin halloween candy in this state, I thank god my BIL was sensible and the split was amicable. Troubling to say the least.

Pardon me if the phrase "jack booted thugs" offends anyone. And I dont mean LEO following laws... I am implying that the NJ pols are JACK BOOTED THUGS. This is ridiculous. Not the TRO named indivs property. He should be given the opportunity to move, not the home owners possessions taken.

I am committed to ending my business relationship with Shore Shot over this change in policy.

anothervfn product in my safe soon.

"He did get a receipt..." The odds of them not returning 100% of his merchandise is very low. Where was his ammo and why was it not returned with the guns?

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richard I remember both very well and I used to ride my bike to the jerzee devils games in late 70s. but I graduated from cherry hill east in 85.