Everything posted by njpilot
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HERE WE GO NJ - the grabbers are starting!
Called both numbers. Both woman I spoke to were nice, not antagonistic or anything at all. Took my name, town and county and said they are keeping count of calls for people who are for or against.
- new from Fair Lawn here OBRPC
- Hello from the great northwest
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Greetings from Monmouth County
Welcome
- Hello from Toms River
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PA Rally Was Today
Anyone know how they did? Mipafox, was it a good showing?
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I Sure Hope This Ridiculous Bill Goes Nowhere
http://dailycaller.com/2013/01/23/missouri-lawmaker-introduces-bill-criminalizing-failure-to-report-gun-ownership-to-childs-school/ How about none of your f*cking business.
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Fire on US citizens?
Nick, how would any of the things you've listed stop criminals or nut jobs from using guns to do bad? How would any of these things stop the next Columbine, Aurora or Sandy Hook. With all due respect, these things just sound like "feel good" legislation that are power hungry politicians want to do to us already, that will have no effect on any gun related crimes, only affect law abiding citizens.
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Another School Shooting, TX
They must be doing cartwheels over at the White House.
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Another School Shooting, TX
Just heard on the news, no info yet, but appears to be a college campus in Houston.
- Hello from Old Bridge
- Hello from Wantage
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Dealing with Anti gunners on facebook that deny facts
+100000000000
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Another shooting... in NM
Wonder what meds this kid was on.
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Email from ANJRPC: LEGISLATIVE WARNING FROM EVAN NAPPEN
I don't think those bills mentioned would pass Constitutional review, but who knows after Roberts folding on Odumbocare. If this were to happen, I work in Allentown PA and have been looking to buy a place instead of hoteling it some nights. This would definitely give me the push to buy something and change my residence. Move all my stuff there and get to buy the fun stuff. Girlfriend won't be happy, but oh well. Not giving up my rights, nor would I submit to that bs.
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Proposed New Jersey gun bill will add a 5% sales tax on top of the current 7% sales tax on all guns and ammunition
As far as the ammo tax goes, this monts's issue of The American Rifleman had an article on the Violence Tax" Cook County IL wanted. The article says "The Constitution isn't on Preckwinkle's (the woman pushing the tax) side either. Federal and state courts have consistently blocked discriminatory taxes on the exercise of constitutional rights. In 1983, for example, the US Supreme Court struck down a special tax on ink and paper for publications, saying, 'A power to tax differentially, as opposed to a power to tax generally, gives a government a powerful weapon against the taxpayer selected'."
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February 8th, Pro 2a Rally
Has anyone contacted Dennis Malloy of 101.5 to see if he would promote the rally on his radio show? Maybe Deminski and Doyle show too? Has Dennis been asked to come to the rally, maybe speak?
- New.. from Elmer, NJ
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new member from union county
Welcome
- Central Jersey New Guy
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Who's going February 8th
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Well This Makes a Whole Lot of Sense
Idiots. http://www.buckeyefirearms.org/node/8738\ Ohio media outlet releases name of teacher authorized to go armed at Orrville City Schools When Williams Co., Ohio's Montpelier Schools Board of Education made the announcement that they would allow certain employees to carry concealed in the school as a part of their security plans, we noted that the school was not the first school in Ohio to allow certain members of its staff to go armed - rather, they were just the first to announce the decision publicly. There are even more schools in Ohio that have made the decision to allow armed employees, and some have been doing so well before the horrific attacks in Connecticut. These schools, however, have made the choice not to release this information about their security plan publicly, to prevent the information from being used against them in a potential attack. Despite the knowledge of this risk, WEWS's (ABC Cleveland) Dave Arnold is reporting that a public records request has revealed that Orrville City Schools in Ohio's Wayne County has also made the decision to allow an armed employee into the building. From the article: When it came to a vote for a school board resolution at last month's Orrville City School board meeting to allow a firearm to be carried by a teacher, it may have set a new national precedent for security measures in schools when it was unanimously agreed upon. But, the district was not seeking publicity, hoping to create an even more secure school situation there, but an Ohio Revised Code spelled out an open records request had to be honored by the district. Orrville City Schools Superintendent Jon Ritchie said that while it may appear controversial to those with children in other school districts, there was little opposition to it in this Wayne County district, which is about an hour southwest of Cleveland. Workers are building a brand new Orrville High School. With that in progress, Ritchie said he felt extra measures were needed after 20 students were killed at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Connecticut Dec. 14: a school without an available firearm or a school official trained to use one. "We have state-of-the-art security, but the human element of security is something we clearly wanted to make sure that we addressed," Ritchie said. The district approached one teacher, whose night job stood out. Bill Yerman, a science teacher, is also employed as a law officer with the nearby Lawrence Township Police Department. "The fact that Mr. Yerman, being a law enforcement official, we just thought this made perfect sense," Ritchie said. Ritchie added that Yerman didn't want attention and he turned down all media requests for interviews. "We approached him, he did not approach us for consideration," Ritchie said. While making the public aware that there is an armed presence in the school (such as Montpelier schools chose to do) will have a deterrent effect on potential attackers, it is unwise to release information about who is armed. Boaord of Education members at both Montpelier and Orrville school knew this, and judging by the article, WEWS knew it as well - but they chose to publish the information anyways, just as The Toledo Blade decided to report the occupation (but not the name) of some of the persons who will go armed in Montpelier. In releasing this Orrville math teacher's name, and even showing his photograph in their t.v. coverage, history proves WEWS has made Ritchie a potential target. In a 2005 spree killing in Red Lake, MN, where a uniformed guard was present at the school, the attacker simply used his stolen gun to ambush the guard first, before bypassing passive security measures such as a chain link fences, metal detector, video cameras and "no-guns" signs. We have another name for school resource officers: "designated targets." It will be better for everyone if the potential attacker knows there is an armed presence, but doesn't know where the response would come from if they chose to attack. The release of this person's name by WEWS is the utmost of irresponsibility. Again, from the article: Orrville resident Nicole Walker drops her son and twin girls off at school each day. She said she's elated with the Orrville Police Department’s constant visibility surrounding the school, but having someone inside her children's school following the Newtown school tragedy, puts her mind even more at ease. "I have three of them in the elementary and to have something happen in an elementary school was really scary. It feels safe, it's a good school," Walker said. Orrville High School junior Stewart Schley had Yerman as a teacher in the past. Schley said Yerman's calm demeanor doesn't worry students. But she does not feel the district should escalate security measures to more armed guards. "I don't want armed guards at every door. That it makes it seem like a prison. As long as it's one and just for protection," Schley said. Yerman's unique dual school service position also saves the Orrville school district from hiring security personnel. "We spent a lot of time looking into this decision. We tried to make sure we took into account all the factors and at the end of the day we weren't interested in this being a news-making item. What we were interested in is doing what's in the best interest of the students entrusted to our care," Ritchie said. Again, while the public knowledge that certain schools are taking these measures will help give other schools the courage to do so, school officials in Orville understood that publicly naming individuals who will be armed is counter-productive. They informed WEWS's Dave Arnold of this fact, and the station still chose to release the information. Shame on them. Chad D. Baus is the Buckeye Firearms Association Vice Chairman.
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Eastern Outdoor Show (Harrisburg Pa) Bans "Assault Weapons"
Sorry, just saw this was posted in a different area.
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Eastern Outdoor Show (Harrisburg Pa) Bans "Assault Weapons"
I hope that a lot of people boycott this show and they have a terrible showing. http://dailycaller.com/2013/01/18/americas-largest-outdoor-sports-show-to-ban-ar-15s/ America’s largest outdoor sports show to ban AR-15′s The Eastern Sports and Outdoor Show, also known as the Harrisburg Gun Show, has announced it will limit the type of firearms that it will allow to be exhibited. “We have made the decision not to include certain products that in the current climate may attract negative attention,” they posted on their website. The hunting and fishing show, the largest consumer event in the nation, offers 1,200 exhibitors and will run from Feb. 2–10, 2013, just outside of Harrisburg, PA. A representative to the show told the Daily Caller that “no specific information was available on the type of restricted product at this time” and she offered to have someone call back with the information. The National Rifle Association, in a statement through their Institute for Legislative Action, stated they “strongly disagrees with Reed Exhibitions’ decision to ban Modern Sporting Rifles.” The statement went on to “urge you to follow the NRA and the outdoor industry’s lead by voicing your displeasure with Reed Exhibitions both before and during the show and encourage them to reconsider their position.” The NRA is reconsidering their support of the show, “The NRA’s future participation in the Eastern Sports & Outdoor Show will be determined by Reed Exhibitions actions in response to the concerns raised by the NRA, the outdoor industry, and America’s law-abiding gun owners.” Facebook fans of the show are outraged. One fan writes, “If you stand for and support the second amendment, then you would not allow your judgment to be clouded by the people who mean to do harm to the very foundation of this country. I and, my family, will not be attending.” Fans have set up a page calling for a boycott of the show and have gotten support from 1,348 people since Tuesday. While the show will not specifically tell the public what products are banned, the website Lancaster Online is reporting that AR style rifles and high-capacity magazines are the targeted products. “Representatives from Kinsey’s Outdoors in Mount Joy and The Sportsman Shop in New Holland, which are both affected by the ban, said they were told by Reed officials they could not bring to the show for sale or display any AR-style rifles or ammunition magazines capable of holding more than 30 rounds,” the site reported. Reed Exhibitions, the event’s organizer, is based in Norwalk, Conn., approximately twenty-five miles from Newtown where the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting took place. Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/01/18/americas-largest-outdoor-sports-show-to-ban-ar-15s/#ixzz2IX1Wj4n3
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Typical Biden. Dishonesty or Stupidity?
http://hotair.com/archives/2013/01/18/biden-we-need-more-gun-laws-because-we-dont-have-time-to-enforce-the-ones-we-have/ Biden: We need more gun laws because we don’t have time to enforce the ones we have POSTED AT 8:01 AM ON JANUARY 18, 2013 BY ED MORRISSEY Joe Biden headed up the task force on gun violence that supposedly wanted to hear all perspectives before proposing a new raft of laws that would restrict access to weapons, magazines, and ammunition. According to one participant, one reason that Biden and Barack Obama want new laws is because they don’t have time to enforce the laws already on the books — specifically, the laws relating to background checks that Biden and Obama want expanded: During the National Rifle Association’s meeting with Vice President Joe Biden and the White House gun violence task force, the vice president said the Obama administration does not have the time to fully enforce existing gun laws. Jim Baker, the NRA representative present at the meeting, recalled the vice president’s words during an interview with The Daily Caller: “And to your point, Mr. Baker, regarding the lack of prosecutions on lying on Form 4473s, we simply don’t have the time or manpower to prosecute everybody who lies on a form, that checks a wrong box, that answers a question inaccurately.” … In 2010, prosecutors considered just 22 cases of information falsification, according to a 2012 report to the Department of Justice by the Regional Justice Information Service. Forty additional background-check cases ended up before prosecutors for reasons related to unlawful gun possession. In all, prosecutors pursued just 44 of those 62 cases. More than 72,600 applications were denied on the basis of a background check. … Gun prosecutions in 2011 were down 35 percent from the previous administration’s peak in 2004, according to Justice Department data compiled by the Transactional Records Access Clearinghouse at Syracuse University. Not every failed background check is due to deliberate fraud or deception, of course. People can make mistakes like “check[ing] a wrong box” without malicious or deceptive intent. However, I’d guess that the percentage of failures involving deception and fraud is somewhat higher than .086% of all rejected applications. If not, then the existing background check system fails 99.91% of the time, and isn’t a deterrent to gun violence at all. If fraud and deception occur at a higher rate than 62 out of 72,600, then rather than add to the number of background checks, we should first ask why the Department of Justice didn’t pursue more than 44 prosecutions, which is a worse rate of .0606% of all rejected applications. If it’s that they don’t have time to check more failures, as Biden insisted, then why on Earth are we demanding a higher volume of background checks? What we need is a higher volume of follow-up on existing red flags. The Daily Caller asked for some clarification on this point, but … Vice President Biden’s press office did not respond to requests for comment. I’m not opposed to expanding background checks in principle, but what’s the point if no one follows up on the bad actors they expose in the existing system? Update: 99.1% should have been 99.91%; I’ve fixed it above.