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It's no big deal guys, just wanted to keep this on topic. I was thinking pistols only as our choices of ammo and break-in periods would be totally different.

can we stay on topic please

Good call Alex, we got there before the crowd arrived. Thanks for coming out Ed, Chris and Luis.

Range report Okay, this thing is definetly not a plinker. 45LC shoots a little high at 10 yards, but nothing to worry about. Now, as far as the HD stuff. I had the Federal #4 shot, Winchester PDX1 and Winchester 000 Buck. The Winchester PDX1 load is a handfull to say the least. I tested them all at 5 yards, being as this gun is an in-your-face kinda piece. The #4 shoot at that distance covered the whole target, man and edges. Definetly not something I'd use but a load of that to the face would be devistating and a definite fight-stopper. The Winchester 000 buck was a little high but all three pellets where pretty close to each other. About a 4 inch spread, maybe less. A good choice for HD. The Winchester PDX1 load was the winner, by far. This one has the three flat discs followed by a load of some plated BB's. At 5 yards, the dics where a little high but still center and almost touching. The BB's where all on the target and all impacted the perpetrator. That load is gonna put anyone down, anda double tap would make sure of it. This is the load I've decided to carry on board once I've cleaned and found a spot for it.

500 rounds of home defense ammo is pricey, but I can understand it. I figure you'll find out if a semi-auto dislikes the ammo you've choosin pretty quickly, like in the first few magazines.

Dan, what are you talking about?! Once again I find myself agreeing with Vlad! A justifiable shooting is a justifiable shooting, that's it. A 12 gauge slug has more energy almost any handgun caliber but I'm sure members here are using them for home defense. I just used my latest purchase as an example, not for you to nit pick at my decision.

Bayonne? This Tuesday, 730

This topic started as how to make your handgun ready for protection to hating a judge to legality of shooting a criminal with a 454 Casual. And, for your information, the 410 Winchester PDX1 load is a definite fight stopper inside 15 yards. Ouch!!!!

Okay, so you just left the gunshop with your brand new pistol that you plan on using for home defense (or concealed carry). What is your process to get it ready for the nightstand, lock-box, or holster? How many rounds, what kind of ammo, cleaning, gunsmith upgrades? I'll use my latest purchase as an example. Taurus Judge Public Defender in stainless steel. Before I even shot her I took her to my local gunsmith for a trigger job since it'll be shot mostly in DA. I've since got it back and now I'm heading to the range with an assortment of 000buck #4, bb-n-disc, and 45LC that I'll run threw it. In all about 85 rounds. If all goes according to plan and it shoots where I point then I'll consider it "good to go". Since it's not a semi then I'm not worried about magazines, feeding, cycling, or ejecting issues so that's a whole different process.

On my way ladies, see you there.

Yup, my choice as well. And like NJLuger said, there's one for sale here!

Everyone around there knows what the deal is. There's a gunshop with a range down the street and they see it all the time. As far as legality, I see all kinds of LE guys park there so it shouldn't be an issue. Now, if you think that area is sketchy, come check out my "hood"!

Think of it as training.

That would take alot of rounds, alot more than most here would shoot in a guns lifetime.

Bayonne Pistol range does!

man-up ladies, park a block away and walk!

I hope so, I have some!

True. When you and the pistol become one. When it is an extension of your hand.

I understand, but your not gonna shoot a snubbie or compact semi-auto all that much. Your full size guns will get the long range sessions and the smaller ones will just be functioned tested. I'm gonna say this again, shoot it enough to consider it good to go.

I'm in

I do Frank, I do. It takes alot of rounds for me in a semi-auto to consider it worthy of home defense. Not as much in a revolver but that's a whole other story. Pop, you KNOW I love you too. Glock gangsta's gotta stick together.

Damn, I wanna go! Have gun guys, and if I can I'll be there too!

Interesting, nice page bro. Not sure the misses would like my 870 hanging on the wall though.

Ah, okay. Gotcha. If your not busy then take a ride to Caso's as well.

If i wasn't working I'd stop by and see what you get. I always like to be there when others take the plunge!