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Good post. I am hoping my Model 19 snubbie fits the bill when I can finally carry.

AT&T reception is crap. During a storm (i.e. snowstorm, hurricane, etc), all reception is lost. Worse still, it scans for a network and drains your phone in no time. I have always had a signal with Verizon. L live near Sandy Hook on the shore.

The CZ97 feels great in the hand. It is also a substantial hunk of steel. Recoil is negligible. Accurate as hell because of the slide in frame design.

COE is only for long guns. Permit to Purchase for handguns. That is all.

+1. it is unfortunate she didn't have a good 20 gauge.

On P2P form, for private sales fill out bottom left hand corner. Sales through FFL go in bottom center.

Avoid charter arms. They are crap. Snubbies are NOT a good first gun. Shooting them with anything other than creampuff loads is not much fun and will most likely turn her off to shooting. I might suggest a blues 4" S&W k frame. Then have it cerakoted pink after she is sure she likes shooting it.

Great gun. My wife liked it so much, she claimed it for her own. Don't get the lowest end Camper model though. It has a plastic sight base.

Like Griz says, the least mods will be the best. Go to the Dicks in Brick on rte 70. They always seem to have youth model shotguns. Try them on for size. If it's close to fitting, then she could make do with a buttpad spacer that adds to LOP. She probably won't want a recoil pad because that can absorb enough recoil energy to make the semi-auto action unreliable. It would be fine for a pump action or break open though. If she needs much more stock length than the youth model gives her, then someone will need to cut down a full size stock and put on a grind-to-fit buttpad. A gunsmith could do that very inexpensively. If you are handy and adventurous, you could do it yourself.

I believe this new generation of VEPRs (the earlier gen was Robinson Arms) may NOT use standard AK mags. You probably want to verify before ordering.

There are some more current horror stories here about Paterson, with permits taking over a year. Maybe they got worse. I know Jersey City get better since I lived there.

http://njgunforums.com/forum/index.php?/topic/33053-recreational-shooting-and-lead-toxicity/page__hl__chelation__fromsearch__1

An upper decker. Haven't heard that one in a while. Great party favor.

Good reply.

What a self-righteous windbag.

3 months is considered a success story in many parts of the People's Republic of New Jersey. If you live in Elizabeth or Paterson, you better have a lawyer on retainer.

It only makes sense to get more than three if you know the chief will sign extensions. I would pursue. Be polite, but persistent. Keep track of the people you speak with and the dates, in case you need to pursue formally later. If the wait becomes too much longer, you should contact the New Jersey 2nd Amendment Society. They are great at dealing with police departments that throw up obstacles to getting your permits.

I felt one of the early ones a few years ago at Brick Armory. It was very rough and had the worst trigger of any 1911 I had ever fired. Maybe that was just an early sample, but it turned me off to them. I did like its classic looks though.

Duppie has a good point. I paid a few hundred more for a pinned and recessed Model 19-4 in 2 1/2" configuration than the same model and condition would cost in 4".

Her "needing" a police escort was pure histrionics. Maybe a bit of theater to show the world what savages we all are.

Sarcasm? Stupidity? Tough to tell. Sounds like either a teenaged girl or someone with a dry sense of humor.

Same here. saw Wolfy too.

Rugers are nice and very reliable. They usually feel a bit chunkier and have a worse trigger. In the end, it will work for you if that is what you like. Do yourself a favor though and try one of the S&W K frames and see if you don't like the feel and handling better. And if they let you dry fire it, you'll see the difference there as well.

I was at Brookdale today. She is a brunette in her 40's. My guess is Jersey italian (the hair and clothes). Thankfully her speech went like this "The NRA puts guns on our streets. Stand up to the NRA. No guns in schools". Long on rhetoric. Short on much else. She was really the only truly anti-gun speech I heard today. One was weird, about killing someone in self defense affecting what you come back as in the next life. And then a Reverend from Asbury who just desperately wants guns out of his neighborhood. I got there at 3:30 and the place was packed. I signed up to speak (bald guy in the Mets shirt on the left speaking line) but by the time it was my turn, 90% of the points my prepared speech had been rehashed by several different speakers. I made a few points and simply handed the panel my prepared speech. I will say that I think the speeches with the most impact were the ones from regular folks who talked about the impact NJ rules has on their lives and how the proposed new laws would negatively impact them. There were a few pragmatic proposals from speakers. Then there were a few speakers who railed against the system and pretended like they were teaching Constitutional law to students. That was red meat for the crowd, but (IMO) didn't help the panel much. I do feel bad for the Asbury Park Reverend who spoke about burying children who have been shot. I don't think you will ever convince him that having a gun can be a good thing if it is in the right hands. Like most urban dwellers, he only gets to see the negatives.

Cool. I hope you didn't have to take out a mortgage to buy that. They were expensive before all this craziness began.