Hey guys need some advice regarding some permits...So about a week before christmas I put in for some more pistol permits, currently i live in cranford nj, and average time before panic mode was about 5 weeks waiting time...It is currently february and there is no sign of them. Now i normally am a very patient person and dont mind the wait, as im originally from NYC, and thats a whole different ballgame in regards to permits. However, when i went to the police station of my town originally to drop off my application as well as background check fee of 12 bucks, i was told by the detective there that i am not allowed to request 5 pistol permits, and that i can only get 3. I know this is false because i have received 5 in the past. When is asked his reasoning he said that they would expire before i would ever get to use them, i replied saying that i can take out an extension on them which i have done in the past and then they would last. He then gave me a weary look and said well the state police dont like giving out extensions to people who take out extra permits. I then convinced him to put down for 5, despite his hesitation. The other issue is when he had my sign some forms in front of him, he left out having me sign the mental health check form. Which after he said im all set, i remembered that this for sure needs to be signed, and explained to him that i should sign it now. Again despite his hesitation it was signed and i went on my way. Fast forward 2 months, no sign of the permits. I know were in some crazy times, and im sure permits are being put in for left and right, but i have a weird feeling mine were somehow overlooked due to my experience. Do you guys think i should wait it out for a bit longer, call up the police station see if they have any info? I dont want to press my luck and annoy any1 there....any opinions would be great, thanks guys

everything is extremely backed up with the process, specially since the shooting in December...alot people are applying.

It only makes sense to get more than three if you know the chief will sign extensions. I would pursue. Be polite, but persistent. Keep track of the people you speak with and the dates, in case you need to pursue formally later. If the wait becomes too much longer, you should contact the New Jersey 2nd Amendment Society. They are great at dealing with police departments that throw up obstacles to getting your permits.

I would stop in or call the detective and inquire, I did that with my town, put mine in Dec 29 and am still waiting. when I called to inquire I was polite and said I was just following up and was told he had my stuff back and all that was left was references.

The guy is a moron! What if you were applying to the State Police for an exemption and you were buying a collection of 100 handguns, what then? There is NO LIMIT to how many pistol purchase permits you can apply for, NO LIMIT!

A guy I work with lives in Cranford and he just told me his horror story with CPD a few weeks ago. It took him 3 months to get his 3 permits.

Been waiting since Nov. 4th. All my paperwork came back, clean and I'm STILL waiting.

A guy I work with lives in Cranford and he just told me his horror story with CPD a few weeks ago. It took him 3 months to get his 3 permits.

 

3 months is considered a success story in many parts of the People's Republic of New Jersey. If you live in Elizabeth or Paterson, you better have a lawyer on retainer.

Thanks for the replies guys...i am going to wait till end of february then i will pursue...if i did not have a 22 ar build i was working on i would be a bit more impatient. Im going broke waiting for these permits and getting parting parts for the rifle lol

Definitely pursue - now! First, I don't know where the $12 background check fee comes from. If you filled out and signed a yellow SP-212A form (non-criminal background check), the statutory fee for that is $18 and your MO is to made payable directly to the NJSP/SBI. Second, the NJSP have no say in whether a permit is extended (unless they were the issuing authority - which in this case they were not). Third, as you already know, they cannot limit you to the number of permits applied for - whether the CLEO of the issuing authority approves extensions or not. There are circumstances, as has also been pointed out, where you will need multiple permits (any of the multiple purchase exemptions). And since multiple purchase exemptions fall outside OGAM, you will need permits for the normally allowed OGAM, even if you just bought 10 guns under an exemption.

 

When you follow-up, do so with someone other than the officer that received your original application, as he obviously does not have a clue. The real red flag in all of this is the $12 fee. I envision the NJSP not returning the background check because they have not been paid, or not paid the correct amount. In light of the above you really need to follow-up now.

 

JMHO - Good luck.

 

Adios,

 

Pizza Bob

3 months is considered a success story in many parts of the People's Republic of New Jersey. If you live in Elizabeth or Paterson, you better have a lawyer on retainer.

 

not paterson, i used to live there. my initial change of address to paterson took about 3 weeks with pps. When i just did pp's there it would take about 2 weeks. the detective is a good guy that does it. Only way i see him giving you a problem is if there is a reason he finds to give you a problem, background check or something.

 

 

not paterson, i used to live there. my initial change of address to paterson took about 3 weeks with pps. When i just did pp's there it would take about 2 weeks. the detective is a good guy that does it. Only way i see him giving you a problem is if there is a reason he finds to give you a problem, background check or something.

 

There are some more current horror stories here about Paterson, with permits taking over a year. Maybe they got worse. I know Jersey City get better since I lived there.

 

 

There are some more current horror stories here about Paterson, with permits taking over a year. Maybe they got worse. I know Jersey City get better since I lived there.

 

Not sure, I moved out in September. But no problems for the 2 years I was the. Just the hours of office suck. 2 days a week for like 2 hrs each time. When I did my change of address they sent my file immediately over to the new town too. I called the detective about it because the new town claimed they didn't have it so he said he sent but will again that day and would call them. Honestly I think the detective there is a good guy?

In regards to the 12 dollar fee...i stand corrected it was 18 made out to njsp sbi...sorry

I applied for my permit in Bloomfield on Oct. 26th.... Still waiting over 3 months!!! When I call I get answers like "soon" or "pending"

 

When I applied the detective told me 30 day. Only in NJ!!!

3 sets in cranford aleays took 2-3 months. Only talked to a detective to have fingerprints done. Other times just turned on paperwork to the clerks.

 

Mason signed of extensions no problem.

 

But now woth dbag Hannen as mayor who knows.

3 months is considered a success story in many parts of the People's Republic of New Jersey. If you live in Elizabeth or Paterson, you better have a lawyer on retainer.

 

I can agree with this. My father has been waiting since June for his in Elizabeth. To make matters worse, Elizabeth clearly states you are ONLY ALLOWED to apply for 1 permit at a time. How disgusting!

anyone have any luck with permits yet?

 

I've just encountered another obstacle... a "lost in the mail" reference form from a buddy of mine that mailed it out over a week ago. Just wonderful... now to wait another month to have another one sent back to him to get lost again in the mail.

I spoke to a cop from my town earluer today about getting permits. He told me even officers are waiting longer. Njsp is so backed up its crazy. Give it a little while. You can email the chief if you want. Just have a valid reason. You have a gun at a dealer that u special ordered. .. or whatever good luck

No I can understand that NJSP is backed up, but then really wonder how some towns are issuing permits/FID's so quickly? Just seems odd to me. I'm not going to go crazy and bother my PD to speed it up. I more or less wanted to see how others are faring. At the rate its going, I think I'll have to have waited at least 3-4 months this time around but at least the gun I'm waiting to pick up is already paid for and apparently impossible to find other than on gunbroker.

No I can understand that NJSP is backed up, but then really wonder how some towns are issuing permits/FID's so quickly? Just seems odd to me. I'm not going to go crazy and bother my PD to speed it up. I more or less wanted to see how others are faring. At the rate its going, I think I'll have to have waited at least 3-4 months this time around but at least the gun I'm waiting to pick up is already paid for and apparently impossible to find other than on gunbroker.

Some towns only send paper work in once a month and the cleo only signs onces a minth I was told by several pds.... so if he puts aside an hour once a month to sign paperwork for fid and p2p and is sick that daym.. guess what is not done until the next month lol. I was told 12 weeks for mine... in 4 weeks im emailing the cleo and mayor in my town... or whenever I have the funds to start purchasing

In totowa I get my permits in 3 days. I feel for you guys waiting months that sucks. Several years ago when I first applied for my fid it took several months though.

you get permits in 3 days? somehow that seems like a stretch to me. it takes longer than that to process paperwork, get the background check done and contact references... unless of course, you have some special circumstance

you get permits in 3 days? somehow that seems like a stretch to me. it takes longer than that to process paperwork, get the background check done and contact references... unless of course, you have some special circumstance

 

not true, they can get them in 2 days if they want. I have seen some towns take 3 or 4 days. Totowa is a good town and i see that as being very likely.

I know 3 people in various towns who all just got permits during these "crazy times" the longest was 5 weeks.

 

Anything that takes over 6 weeks is bs and excuses on the police depts part. The only valid excuse would be if Sandy washed the PD away.

I live in a town that has no local PD so we must use the NJSP. I sent in the paperwork for a FID change of address on 12/12/12 and am still waiting. I have 2 friends who applied for P2Ps back in November and are still waiting.

 

I call the NJSP every 2 weeks just to check on the status, see if there is anything I need to do and to request specifically where the permits are in the process and ask why it is taking so long.

I've just encountered another obstacle... a "lost in the mail" reference form from a buddy of mine that mailed it out over a week ago.

 

One of my acquaintances had that happen and being that I wasn't born yesterday, I had kept a copy of the reference form and I told him to call up and get their fax number and I would fax it over post haste.

 

GUESS WHAT?!? They found the initial reference form and I didn't need to fax it in. <snicker>

One of my acquaintances had that happen and being that I wasn't born yesterday, I had kept a copy of the reference form and I told him to call up and get their fax number and I would fax it over post haste.

 

GUESS WHAT?!? They found the initial reference form and I didn't need to fax it in. <snicker>

 

I should've asked my friend to make a copy to fax it in case something like this were to happen. Lesson learned, but In my experience USPS never really loses letters and have a feeling it's sitting on their desk.

 

Next time I think i'll send those reference letters certified mail with delivery confirmation.

I should've asked my friend to make a copy to fax it in case something like this were to happen. Lesson learned, but In my experience USPS never really loses letters and have a feeling it's sitting on their desk.

 

Next time I think i'll send those reference letters certified mail with delivery confirmation.

 

And make a copy just in case... The guy I was a reference for - his town was NOTORIOUS for shady stuff so I knew ahead of time to be cautious.

 

 

One of my acquaintances had that happen and being that I wasn't born yesterday, I had kept a copy of the reference form and I told him to call up and get their fax number and I would fax it over post haste.

 

GUESS WHAT?!? They found the initial reference form and I didn't need to fax it in. <snicker>

 

I use certified mail a few times I was a reference for that reason. Funny how they remember when you throw a receipt in ur face