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True. Use a bass guitar case.

Also, a handgun and long gun are treated differently. As long as your firearm is unloaded and in a case, you are within the law. :angry-extinguishflame: Just in case

Very loose. Also, CAI won't send them to NJ.

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Same town? As stated above Different? Full boat

Don't online retailers require proof of age with a DL? Fax or email? Wouldn't the same apply to a FPID?

No mag over 10 rounds could be manufactured during the Federal ban. Possession was not restricted. Mags made over 10 rounds were marked as stated above. A letter from the Chief purchasing officer of an LEA and a letter from the officer buying was needed.

As far as I know, there is no law preventing mail order sales of ammo.

Welcome

Welcome

Do you take trades?

Nope. But more likely the cheapest. USPS priority Insured Mail plus transfer fee may cost less than if you sent it UPS or FedEx Next Day.

With recent membership increasing and all the "how long does it take to get a FID in XYZ town" posts, it seems that NJGF is being infected by the NJH forum. I hope this is a good thing.

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The chair is against the wall.

just playing devils advocate on this one.. but... i KNOW the Saiga, WASR, etc... are legal because it is NOT named and NOT substantially identical.. but i have always taken "Avtomat Kalashnikov type semi-automatic firearms" to mean literally firearms produced in the series... 47 74 100 etc.. but besides that one point i agree %100 with everything else you said.. :clap: one last thing.. when a firearm is NOTHING like anything on the list (take a cx4 storm for example) does that mean you have have a flash hider threaded barrel etc.. dont have any interest in having one for that gun more just curious..

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No 2C:58-3c ...No handgun purchase permit or firearms purchaser identification card shall be issued: (7)To any person who as a juvenile was adjudicated delinquent for an offense which, if committed by an adult, would constitute a crime and the offense involved the unlawful use or possession of a weapon, explosive or destructive device or is enumerated in subsection d. of section 2 of P.L.1997, c.117 (C.2C:43-7.2)

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ONE LAST TIME THE LAW THAT PERTAINS TO EVERYONE: 2C:39-1w."Assault firearm" means: (1)The following firearms: Algimec AGM1 type Any shotgun with a revolving cylinder such as the "Street Sweeper" or "Striker 12" Armalite AR-180 type Australian Automatic Arms SAR Avtomat Kalashnikov type semi-automatic firearms Beretta AR-70 and BM59 semi-automatic firearms Bushmaster Assault Rifle Calico M-900 Assault carbine and M-900 CETME G3 Chartered Industries of Singapore SR-88 type Colt AR-15 and CAR-15 series Daewoo K-1, K-2, Max 1 and Max 2, AR 100 types Demro TAC-1 carbine type Encom MP-9 and MP-45 carbine types FAMAS MAS223 types FN-FAL, FN-LAR, or FN-FNC type semi-automatic firearms Franchi SPAS 12 and LAW 12 shotguns G3SA type Galil type Heckler and Koch HK91, HK93, HK94, MP5, PSG-1 Intratec TEC 9 and 22 semi-automatic firearms M1 carbine type M14S type MAC 10, MAC 11, MAC 11-9mm carbine type firearms PJK M-68 carbine type Plainfield Machine Company Carbine Ruger K-Mini-14/5F and Mini-14/5RF SIG AMT, SIG 550SP, SIG 551SP, SIG PE-57 types SKS with detachable magazine type Spectre Auto carbine type Springfield Armory BM59 and SAR-48 type Sterling MK-6, MK-7 and SAR types Steyr A.U.G. semi-automatic firearms USAS 12 semi-automatic type shotgun Uzi type semi-automatic firearms Valmet M62, M71S, M76, or M78 type semi-automatic firearms Weaver Arm Nighthawk. THE GUIDELINE GIVEN TO LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES: ASSAULT FIREARMS Guidelines Regarding the "Substantially Identical" Provision in the State's Assault Firearms Laws Issued August 1996 TO: Director Terrence P. Farley, Division of Criminal Justice All County Prosecutors All Law Enforcement Chief Executives FROM: Attorney General Peter Verniero DATE: August 19, 1996 SUBJECT: Guidelines Regarding the "Substantially Identical" Provision in the State's Assault Firearms Laws I. Introduction In recent weeks there has been a question about the meaning of the term "substantially identical" in New Jersey's assault firearms law. The Legislature addressed this question in the provisions of the Code of Criminal Justice, and despite the clarity of the law, it is appropriate for the Attorney General to provide guidance to the prosecutors in order to ensure that the law is administered uniformly and effectively throughout the State. N.J.S.A. 52:17B-98. I am directing the prosecutors, as chief law enforcement officers of their respective counties, to share this guidance with local police departments, who in turn should provide copies of this memorandum to any member of the public who requests information on assault firearms. II. Guidelines New Jersey law lists firearms that are prohibited "assault firearms." N.J.S.A. 2C:39-1w.(1). In addition, the law provides that the term "assault firearm" includes, "Any firearm manufactured under any designation which is substantially identical to any of the firearms listed" in the law. N.J.S.A. 2C:39-1w.(2). Thus, a firearm is an assault firearm if it is included on the list of banned firearms or if it is manufactured under a different designation than a firearm on the list but is "substantially identical" to a specific listed firearm. We believe "substantially identical" is clear by its plain meaning. The Criminal Code provides that the statutes in the Code must be read "according to the fair import of their terms." N.J.S.A. 2C:1-2c. The Criminal Code explains that where language may be susceptible to different readings it must be construed to "give fair warning of the nature of the conduct proscribed." N.J.S.A. 2C:1-2a.(4), c. Simply put, the phrase "substantially identical" must be given its plain meaning, one that gives fair warning. The term "substantial" means pertaining to the substance, matter, material or essence of a thing. The term "identical" means exactly the same. Hence, a firearm is substantially identical to another only if it is identical in all material, essential respects. A firearm is not substantially identical to a listed assault firearm unless it is identical except for differences which do not alter the essential nature of the firearm. The following are examples of manufacturer changes that do not alter the essential nature of the firearm: name or designation of the firearm; the color of the firearm; the material used to make the barrel or stock of the firearm; the material used to make a pistol grip; a modification of a pistol grip. This is not an exclusive list. A semi-automatic firearm should be considered to be "substantially identical," that is, identical in all material respects, to a named assault weapon if it meets the below listed criteria: A. a semi-automatic rifle that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least 2 of the following: 1. a folding or telescoping stock; 2. a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon; 3. a bayonet mount; 4. a flash suppressor or threaded barrel designed to accommodate a flash suppressor; and 5. a grenade launcher; B. a semi-automatic pistol that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least 2 of the following: 1. an ammunition magazine that attaches to the pistol outside of the pistol grip; 2. a threaded barrel capable of accepting a barrel extender, flash suppressor, forward handgrip, or silencer; 3. a shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel and that permits the shooter to hold the firearm with the nontrigger hand without being burned; 4. manufactured weight of 50 ounces or more when the pistol is unloaded; and 5. a semi-automatic version of an automatic firearm; and, C. a semi-automatic shotgun that has at least 2 of the following: 1. a folding or telescoping stock; 2. a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon; 3. a fixed magazine capacity in excess of 5 rounds; and 4. an ability to accept a detachable magazine. III. Inquiries from Private Citizens Law enforcement officers should, whenever possible, attempt to be helpful and to respond to inquiries concerning particular firearms. Private citizens should also be encouraged to consult with their own attorneys and, where necessary, referred to the Firearms Unit of the Division of State Police. IV. Purpose and Effect of these Guidelines In enforcing this law, prosecutors and police should remember that an assault firearms offense requires proof that the defendant knows he or she possesses an assault firearm, e.g., that the defendant knows that the firearm is "substantially identical" to one of the named assault weapons. These guidelines should be followed by all county prosecutors and all law enforcement officers in this State so that the State's assault firearms laws will be uniformly enforced throughout the State. POINTS TO PONDER: Where is "AK-47" named on the list? Where is the "PLR16" named on the list? Where is the "SCAR" named on the list? Where is the 10/22 Charger" named on the list? YOU DECIDE +1000

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A few points to be clarified, IMHO: The "sale" was LEGAL if the COE was used and the purchase was made from a dealer. The firearm need not be NJ legal if it never crossed the border. One may purchase pre-ban firearms out of state if they are kept out of state.