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Nice. Thanks, Troy.

What would be really cool (therefore would never happen in NJ) would be if they take the guns they've collected and donate them here so that the organization could have more stuff to auction so that the youth shooting (not the same definition as in NJ) programs could get equipment. That would be an outstanding outreach to the shooting community, which is exactly why it would never happen here.

I may just bring them and get the answer on site. Anyone bringing a shot timer to play with? I've been thinking about getting one, but it hasn't happened yet. It's not at the top of the list right now.

I also have 3 Cherry Ridge target stands (not self-supporting), but only 1 set of feet. I'll probably toss all of it in the van.

Redistribution of wealth justice.

Wasn't there a recent case where some guy was found with 3 30rd. AR mags unloaded in his home and got 5 years for each of them?

I've never shot skeet. Been meaning to try it, but the skeet shooters at Sparta are really hardcore, and I don't really want to slow down their game with my newbieness. ETA: Did we ever find out if draw from holster is okay at Dix??

http://www.facebook....no-laws&h=f7a7c is the full link. I get FB, too.

Trap

He couldn't find a volunteer. Nobody is that good a friend.

Okay. I'm in. Seems like a good chance to pop my skeet cherry.

Always room in the asylum. Welcome.

Jordan wanted one of those for his 597 for about 5 minutes. Then he looked at it again and changed his mind.

As a lawful gun owner in NJ, it's my personal responsibility to be aware of the laws affecting my ability to participate in my hobby. Anyone who isn't aware of the laws regarding transportation of firearms and finds themselves in that situation is potentially subject to exactly what you describe. Yeah it sucks, and it's an unnecessarily punitive and capricious regulation, and it should be among the very first that are scrapped when NJ gets around to revisiting their draconian laws, but for now and in the foreseeable future, that's the way it is. Plan your trip accordingly.

Lynn handled one in the store, and liked the feel of it a lot. It has the same feel as her P22, so she was very comfortable with it. It's on the short list of guns to try out if the opportunity ever presents itself. Personally, I don't care for the mag release lever on the trigger guard, and the grip texture is a little weird for me, but it feels like a nice, well made and substantial gun.

Greetings and welcome.

Yeah, the law sucks. It may even be unconstitutional, but "reasonable restrictions" and other such minutiae have yet to be defined. It should be changed, and it may. It's the responsibility of the individual to know the law as it is now, not as you would like it to be. Any law. Every law. Ignorance isn't a defense. Disagreement isn't a defense. The guy broke the law. End of story. Whether or not we agree with the law is completely irrelevant. We don't have the luxury of ignoring laws that we don't like. So, if you want to test the law by unloading your trunk full of guns in a BK parking lot on the way back from the range, go right ahead. The rest of us will continue obeying the laws that exist now, and make whatever effort we can to see them change. It's irresponsible to come up on this board and imply that it's okay to ignore the laws as they are simply because you believe (and you may be right) that they're unconstitutional. When they're changed, it'll be different. Until then, the laws are the laws, and any time some yahoo breaks one of them, it makes the rest of the community, who by and large comply with the standing laws, look like a bunch of irresponsible jackasses, and it gives the antis (who haven't stopped their march on Trenton) more fuel for their gun control fires.

They built the pyramids, didn't they. All it takes is time, ingenuity, and unlimited human labor.

Mine is bolted to the concrete floor.

I know the feeling. I still have plenty of shelf space, but the long gun side of the safe is getting tight. I've learned that a "14 long gun capacity" only refers to guns with paper thin stocks with no optics or bipods hanging off of them. Anything else counts as 2.

Very, very nice. Have fun with it.

Nice. Worth the money if you aren't equipped to hump a 5 or 6 hundred pound safe up or down a narrow stairway.

You're welcome. Another thing to keep in mind is that most deliveries are curbside (IDK if Lowes offers installation as an additional service). You'll need to be able to horse it into position wherever you're going to put it.

No sales tax on gun safes in NJ. I looked at that safe when I was safe shopping. Looked nice, but I went with the Costco safe that was on sale at the time. Also nice. ETA If your situation permits, think about buying a safe that's larger than you need now. As your collection grows, you'll find that your safe won't continue to meet your needs. Also, think about all the other items in your household that can be stored there. My safe keeps my laptops, a couple of camera bodies and some lenses, some external hard drives, important papers, old family photo albums and some other stuff.

Thanks for the info, Mike. I'll probably shoot in this one.