kenw

Okay, who's getting one of these? Sig Gadsden

I got back from WalMart a little while ago. I'll toss the 2 boxes in the van, Mark. If you come tomorrow, great. Otherwise, I get with you next time. WalMart has 100 round value packs for 21 bucks.

It sounds like fun. I don't have any plans for the 30th, but it's still a long way away. Mark me as a possible.

I'll hold my breath.

Now you're starting to sound like Matt.

For anyone who may have missed the mention of this in the Cherry Ridge working weekend thread. I've been all summer without shooting trap. I need the fix, and it's predicted to be a perfect day for it. We usually start around 1.

Just friggin' WOW. This forum isn't about me or my projects, so I didn't want to start a new thread, but I really want to share this... Tuesday evening, I got an e-mail from the president of one of the groups I sent a letter to, asking me to send him a .pdf so he can redistribute it to his group's mailing list. I didn't even bother to ask how big the list was. It doesn't matter. Any help is welcome. As of 10 minutes ago, I've received 3 e-mails from people I know who've received the letter in their e-mail, and one of them had already been double forwarded through a second mailing list. I'm pumped. K Now, back to the program.

All well and good, but do the voters on the other forums know you personally, and do they know just how much you really want the L (or a Pro)? I think not.

... and we're soon to stop producing bullcrap. The EPA says it contributes to global warming, and is subject to carbon taxation. We'll be sending all our bulls overseas, allowing them to happily crap in some third world country, and then paying exorbitant fees to re-import it so we can continue to spread it around.

I wonder if that would be a reasonable point for the 2A groups to start a discussion about mag limits. Politicians don't seem to care about whether it makes sense or not, or the fact that arbitrary limits are an affront to our rights, but wave a dollar bill in their faces convince them that it will draw more and better people into the state to compete, to watch the competitions, to support the events, and especially, to spend their money here, and there may be some traction to be gained. Another one of those "things that make you go hmmmm".

Textbook example of damning with faint praise.

It would take a giant pile of cash to get me up there.

Look at this, but replace the equine facilities with shooting ranges, berms and trap houses. Horse Park Shane, I get just a little aroused every time I see that video.

Thanks, man. I appreciate that.

it was mostly a tongue in cheek comment, but there's always talk about closing the Arsenal. A few years ago, it was on the block along with a bunch of other bases, but the rumor was that if they close it, they'd have to clean it up, and it was cheaper to keep it open for another 20 years than to shut it down and haul out several million tons of contaminated soil and stone. I'm sure it will stand exactly where it is for a long time. Cheaper to keep 'er.

An existing Superfund site would be nice. Maybe we could get a relatively clean piece of Picatinny when the Feds finally close it down.

Welcome to our Hell. Try the pie.

It's possible that you're right, but I'll use Horse Park as an example. It took years for the event organizers to get the facility recognized as a top tier equestrian destination. Even still, the Olympic trials are held at Gladstone, but there are 2 or 3 events at HP that bring in riders from around the world. Absent those events, the park is available for everything from local schooling shows to 4H orientations. It's a rental facility, and all it takes is the rental fee to do your thing there.

Hey, that's Fudd, with a capital F. Stand proud, Elmer.

Nicely put, Shane. The goals of the groups fighting for 2A rights are very well defined. They include all of those listed above, and maybe a couple more (immunity from civil liability, etc.) but when those are attained, what then? Do those groups pack up their tents? Do the people who fought for and won the return of those rights just pat each other on the back and fade into obscurity? New Jersey will be freer, but how does that benefit the health and growth of the (yeah, I'm gonna say it again) shooting community? The prejudices against shooting, even as a sport, will still exist. The animosity towards us will still be there, and the lack of a growing firearms tradition will herald the eventual end of the community. But, imagine if NJ was a national shooting destination. If groups as different as ATA and USPSA were to include NJ in their national event circuits. If several times a year, tens of thousands of dollars poured into the local business coffers. If people brought their families to watch shooting professionals do their thing in a vast, well maintained park. If local groups could expand their events to encourage greater participation. That would turn some heads, wouldn't it?

Well, certainly not for regulation trap, but it'll show up at Cherry Ridge.

Hey, you won it. Congratulations. K

Greetings and welcome from the northern frontier.

I live to serve.

I think you can only do that in America