KpdPipes

Yes, we can. His gun was Checked in his baggage, he failed to Declare it which was Mistake #2, #1 was being dumb enough to take it to Mexico in the first place...ALTHOUGH I understand WHY he would with the gang problems they have in Mexico right now.

I dunno if the street is the best scenario. That could put some of the public at risk Also as far as the whole no knock argument, the element of surprise is an important one in my opinion. if this guy was a gun trafficker, giving him a chance to set up may have led to a much worse scenario than what actually happened. What if he did pull out the big firepower (assuming he had any)? I dunno, thats just my opinion. I do often worry if someone kicks down your door and yells POLICE, how do you know for sure? Im sure that's been tried too by some mutts I hope for a speedy recovery of the officers that were wounded Right it's MUCH better to Knock and TELL them you're the Police so they can start shoooting at you through the door. I swear some of you folks need to do a Ride-along and get a clue before you start telling us how to do our Jobs.

I would hardly call the Jersey Guys media - they're media as much as Howard Stern is media... Point being, they should be taken with a grain of salt. Screw both of those douchebags. they're the ones who took every opportunity to bad-mouth Edison PD, then published the home address and phone Number of a Trooper who was involved in a fatal MV, then ran like a couple of little girls when the troopers pointed out that with $25.00 ANYONE could get their info from Zabasearch. Carton ended up getting fired over that one, as well as not actually BEING a "Jersey guy" But rossi is STILL a Douche-nozzel of the first order.

AND another $18.00 check for Governor Corslime

We had another guy on my dept who's Wife (now Ex) has had FIVE RO's against him. Even though he has tapes of her saying she only got the RO to screw him over, he's had the same AP (Bergen County) hold up returning him to active duty for MONTHS, and in one case over a year. She has a problem with men, and a REAL problem with male cops (which makes a LOT of sense for an Assistant Prosecutor :roll: ) My Chief has had to go to our County Prosecutor, and have him intervene with the BCP to get this resolved. This was another Ap who has defied a judges direct order to return guns, not only to my guy but to other people as wwell. I can only surmise she has pictures of someone in Trenton screwing a goat to explain why she still has a job, since if I defied a Judicial Order, i'd find myself asking "Do you want fries with that" within a week.

I Cant believe MY mayor isnt on that list...he's as Hudson-county liberal Dem as they get...sadly im not surprised about North Arlington's Mayor being on it. Pete was one of those cops that set the stereotype about us being anti-gun... NEVER hesistated to tell anyone who would listen how nobody should be armed... From the guys I know who worked under him at the PD he was apparently a douch-nozzle then, and it doesnt look as if things have changed.

I Know this has been hashed over but who DOES still ship Handgun ammo to NJ?? the only place that I can find .45 Colt cowboy ammo in stock is Cabelas who dont ship here..and i REALLY dont feel like making the 3 hour tour out there right now...nor do i want to have to pay $40.00 a box at some of the retail places either... Midway, Natchez, and most other places i've checked are all out of stock for Long Colt ammo it seems.

When Sharpe James was Mayor of Newark, they had a chase that went badly, NOT because of any fault by the Plice, someone who was in Newark (Gasp) to buy drugs, blew a red light, and got t-boned by the fleeing vehicle with fatalities. James went on the News and stated that Newark PD would not pursue any cars for any reason other than a homicide suspect or other violent crimes, he even specifically said NPD wouldnt chase stolen cars anymore. Te Result? a few weeks later they had footage of 3 little hood rats in a stolen Honda doing donuts in front of a Newark Car. And of course the fact that that happened was suddenly the fault of the "Lazy" police. Same thing happened down in LA with the King Trial. Darryl Gates had come under fire for previous protests because he had a heavy Police presence, which accodring to the "Community Activists" precipitated the ciolence. So, when the King verdict came down, so did the order, Back off and let hwt happens, happen. And of course he was called everything from a coward to a racist for THAT decision. This Mayor is an Idiot, but after Marion Barry i dont see how ANYONE can not say that the average City Voter isnt a moron.

My current off-duty piece was bought from a co-worker during his "Divorce Sale". All on the up and up, P2P, Cert of elligibility, written reciept, EVERYTHING. 6 months later when the now ex-wife charged him with Agg Assault and terroristic Threats, and got an RO, i had the Passaic County Prosecutor's office harassing ME over the gun, and one Man-hating AP telling me I had to turn it over to them. I not-so politely informed her to piss-off, and get a warrant to sieze it. I then made an appointment to see the Prosecutor Himself, presented him copies of all the paperwork showing that it had been transferred to me according to our requirements, AND provided records from my dept shoeing that I had requested permission from my Chief to carry it, and had qualled twice with it. THEN informed him of the apparent intent by one of his AP's to sieze my property without justification, and her intent to provide her judge with improper information knowingly, to secure the warrant to sieze the gun. He ripped her a new ass in front of me, and IIRC she left within 6 months. apparently she had a REAL problem with men, and it showed when she fought for a lot of RO's that had ZERO justification to be finalized. The Judge himself ended up getting her fired after she argued with him over dropping one too many Final Orders.

Those are only the first to go...You KNOW the only reason they're pleading out is because they got a deal to roll over on everyone else, as well as anyone who hadn't already been charged. Round Two...coming up.

That's what guys were doing with the SL8 to G36 conversions. But what about guys that just wanted to get rid of the a$$hole? The way I read it, it's a import loop hole. There's nothing stating what's done once it's here. Technically you're not assembling a firearm. You're just changing the stock. The PRO was divided 50/50 on this. That was MY take on it..but WTH do I know LOL

If she gets a restraining order, depending on the county it doesnt matter WHERE you kept them, you will have to turn them over and will wait for months to get the County prosecutor to turn them over. NOTE: This has NOTHING to do with the Local Police. the Siezure of firearms comes from the STATE AG, and the delays in returning them come from the County Prosecutors.

I would have to disagree on that one. I lived in Jersey City for ten years. It took nearly a year for me to get my initial FID and first permit. After that experience, I realized that I had to go into the Erie street office and badger people to get anything done. Even with that, it was always 2-3 months for a permit. I haven't lived there in six years now. Maybe things have changed for the better with regards to gun paperwork. Different Chief then. From what I understand, right now the wit time is around 2 weeks from JCPD.

A LOT depends on how many guns you have and how big the PD is. I know MY Dept, evne though we're pretty big, wouldnt be able to do it, we literally dont have the room, and most places have less Storage space than we do for Evidence and in theri Armories.

Oh geez....my Mayor and Chief of PD. I don't think I can go. They get me so mad ( :x ) I'd probably loose my cool. Healy made a public announcement that the NRA is a sworn enemy of Jersey City. Comey, well, word on the street is that he got so much grief about his comment. At work. And at home. Even from co workers!! But as for the ANJRPC folks, I hope they don't screw this up! He did..He's stayed pretty much neutral on the issue up until Mark's death, and Personally i think his mouth overrode his brain with those remarks. I DO know he's taken a lot of heat from Hoppsy over the "Too Short" Turnaround time for permits in JC, yet AFAIK JCPD still has one of the shortest if not THE shortedt turnarounds in NJ

It really SHOULD be an easy argument to make..the problem is getting the necessary information. Given: Every handgun legally purchased in NJ has a paper trail of Purchase Permits, detailing who bought it, the seller, and the date. Given, Handguns recovered from Crime Scenes are run through the NJ system as well as NCIC. Therefore, there SHOULD be a finite number of recovered crime guns that were originally bought in NJ, then transferred unlawfully through Straw Purchases, which the OGAM is supposed to reduce. THAT is the number we need to find to really prove the whole Fallacy that OGAM was to prevent Straw Purchases. if let's say the # of Straw Purchases that originated from Permits here in NJ is say, under 10%, then it would pretty much prove that OGAM wont in and of itself make ANY really appreciable change in the Crime Rate.

Honest Answer?? MOST states in the Union have an articulated RKBA in the State Constitution. NJ does not.

Think of it as Evolution in Action. Charles Darwin is Smiling tonight.

Reporters suck. they dont GARA about ehat's right, all they care about is what copy looks "Hot" so it get's them closer to the front page.

Thanks for everyone's input. I'm not sure if i'm going to try, especially if I have to disclosed a was "denied" on any future applications. :? Documented personal threats? Why is this even a requirement? Is there anything we can do to change the restrictive gun-laws in the State? Where does it stop? Sometimes I wonder why I haven't moved yet... The HONEST answer?? No We (Gun Owners) are a Minority, and no matter how much you want to connotate the "Aquire and Protect Property" Clause in the State Constitution, as long as there is not a CLEARLY stated RKBA we're pretty much screwed.

Vertical Grip on a Pistol makes it an AOW, and a federal matter.

While Evan has moved to NH, his brother Lou Nappen runs the practice. Lou helped a frind of mine who had an Airsoft gun problem. 100% Top-Notch when it comes to firearms problems. Ok I knew that Evan had moved, one of the wife's girlfriends used to be a para for him. I didnt realize Lou was still around.

I believe Nappen has moved out of NJ

You guys are overlooking one VERY glaring fact in NJ firearms laws that is the opposite of everywhere else. In NJ the laws is written to PROHIBIT everything, then list the exceptions where things are allowed. If you dont find something that specifically allows it, then it's assumed to be prohibited.

T/A Stopped selling EVERYTHING they're gone completely. I Know they were only in the new location about a year before they went under/ By the time i found out about it aslmost everything was gone gun-wise except for a couple of REAL junk pieces. I managed to scroe a gun case, a set of muffs for my daughter and 2 fishing poles for a REALLY good price.