Genewarper111

"blade the baby"... hold the baby close to your body using your weak side arm, then take aim with the firearm on the strong side, putting the whole of your body between the target and the baby, turning your body like the blade of a knife. We don't advocate applying a blade TO the baby.... (as if you didn't know....) G

and 100 points to COLDSHOT!! seriously - yes it's part of a simulation we run after we're sure the candidates have passed through the NRA part of the course. It involves (pretending to) calling the police, issuing a warning, firing, moving to the baby (yes, a doll...) shielding the baby from the alleged bad guy, shooting again, bringing the baby with you to cover and then firing a last time. Everyone loves it. Happy Shooting! G

This weekend!! "go to the baby!" "pick up the baby!" "blade the baby!" "shoot!" More fun than........ Enjoy G

that's a GREAT price G

...as I remember, all by the book in East Brunswick also. Good luck! G

I think it would be an interesting exercise in itself to write to all the townships and ask them to send their form, or their complete application packet. I wonder how many would reply? G

I have a P22 and it has a couple of quirks: it won't feed inexpensive *bargain 500* ammo very well and it is a real pain to reassemble - DO NOT LOSE that little guide rod extender thingy piece of plastic.... have un with it tho - it is GREAT for people with smallish hands and is therefore ideal for introducing people to shooting. G

... it appears I must be the only one on the Board without an encyclopaedic knowledge of other states' firearms litigation and spellings of surnames. Duly noted. Apologies for not being so blessed. G

... or.. "the Quotable Quote"... At the NJ2AS meeting on Wednesday evening, the speaker made reference to a case in CA where the argument for 2nd amendment rights was ultimately denied. However, in the dissenting (ie, pro-2A) opinions, there is some interesting and thought-provoking material. The PDF is here: http://notabug.com/kozinski/silveira_v_lockyer enjoy G Thanks to the speaker for providing the whole PDF, not simply the quotation I requested, and thanks to Frank for passing the enquiry along.

Great meeting last night. Congratulations to Frank and Bob and the behind-the-scenes guys, and for the strong work on fronts other than carry law. Thanks also to Anthony and his staff for providing a great venue and organizing the permit side of the meeting so well. G

If you're counting heads, I'm almost certainly coming. Looking forward to it. best G

All sounds good... so does anyone know.. now we've had the motion for summary judgement and the responding motion to dismiss, what happens next, and when will it happen? Many thanks G

I'm leaving now to head down there G

Do you have a link, please? Thanks G

This is really disturbing. I have seen this too - not with my own ammo, but with someone else's - 45ACP....

36 a box is expensive - doesn't the new Wal-MArt just opposite Cabelas have ammo? Last time i bought 9mm there, WWB was 23/100..... never seen WWB in 380, though... G

Speaking as one of the ShootNJ instructors, I'd like to add that I'm delighted to be here!! Very best to Maksim and all the Forum members happy shooting Grant

well.. we all want Sigs and HKs.. right?? (ducks for cover.....)

just thinking about the title of this thread... Maybe we should think about whether we want to continue to accept Chinese MONEY, before we start worrying about "accepting" their military. Who do people think is financing the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan? And while we're spending the $$ they lend us on supporting oil companies in the middle east, they are quietly locking up the freakin' whole of Africa and its resources for the rest of the century. It's time we looked ahead, not back - we can only be the Global Policeman if our economy will support it - our OWN economy, not our borrowed one. We SHOULD only be the Global Policeman, economy notwithstanding, when ever kid is fed and has shoes and is vaccinated, when education and healthcare are available resources for those who want them, not commodities to be sold to the highest bidder to huge profit of a tiny number, and when we are at peace with and tolerant of our fellow countrymen. G

Count on PB to bring stability.Is this tragic event in AZ a question about gun control, civilian access to firearms and the types of firearms one may have access to... ...or... ...is it a question about healthcare, about accessible mental health in the community, about communal responsibility and people giving a sh-1-t about others, or about the irresponsible diminution of the tax base and social services by legislators... Just a thought. If there ever was a case of "guns don't kill people, People kill people", this is it. This is about the person, his illness and the fact that he was neither spotted as being disturbed nor offered any treatment when it was evident. It isn't about his gun(s). I do not condone for one nth of a second the actions he took and I believe we should take no pleasure from it no matter what we think about anything. An apparently mentally disturbed person takes the life of a devoted public servant. There's a whooooole lot to be thinking about here - how this chap got to get and keep his gun is only a small part. G

Frank - you, Bob and all the people working in the background are doing a truly FANTASTIC job. Personally I am very wary for reasons Bob knows, but I'll certainly see you next week (12th) and we can talk mor ethen. I'll do whatever is deemed appropriate. G

Well - the most obvious thing is for you to get an FPID card and PP of your own. While it is a tedious process (ask your wife), in the end the must give them to you if you don't meet any of the criteria for denial. If for whatever reason (and please, I'm not prying here) you don't want to apply, or know that you will be denied, then you should be careful that you don't inadvertently put your wife's status at risk. So - while the laws here are draconian and convoluted, for now, they ARE the laws. I'd doubt that anyone here would advise you to break them. While I'm not 100% certain (and others please correct me) it may be the case that, if there's a reason you know that would lead to you being denied, then you may find that in extreme cases handling a firearm at all may present real problems, temporary transfer notwithstanding. Just be careful. Grant

My voice to the others. I'm delighted for you, truly. Both my sons shoot - one prefers his rifle and the other prefers my pistols and it warms me to know that this is an interest we'll share going forward. Congratulations on having your family round you, too. Happy New Year Grant

My 226 and 229 definitly prefer 124 gr to 115, but the 115 isn't exactly bad. I prefer the Winchester White Box of 100 from Walmart in PA - $26 - but the Federal Champion there ($20 per 100) is OK too. The Federal at Sportsmen's on 130N is their American Eagle brand and yes, it is $9 per 50. Early on I tried out a large number of available 9mm rounds and selected the WWB on the basis of group size at 25 yards. Remington I remember was especially poor. 124g Federal EFMJ definitely gives smaller groups at any distance except the most close. I've never tried the NATO stuff, nor the Winchester Ranger, which I believe is the same stuff. Good luck and Happy Shooting, and congrats on the 226 - I got min when traded in my P30L, which I never liked (long trigger pull) best G

So - we have elsewhere a great thread about the snow (we had 15 inches here btw - sounds like we were lucky) but nothing about the effect , if any, on whether the State of Emergency declared over the snow affects the gun laws in NJ. I have no clue, although I have heard that in some states all bets are off during an SOE. Does anyone know about NJ? best G