DevsAdvocate

Except for the part where the gun gets wet right? I dunno how ya'll are glossing over that glaring failure...

Be careful, don't get it wet... use it in the rain, or anywhere with water!

Again, while some tests were meh, the mud and water one was pretty mild. Just because H&K makes a few good guns doesn't mean they can't have some flops in the mix.

I agree to an extent. But failing the water and dirt test is unacceptable. If a Glock can handle those conditions, why can't a VP9?

At this point, he needs to test a Glock 17, P320, and PPQ the same way. Not sure how they would hold up.

At this point, I'm thinking of switching over to USPSA if it doesn't come back there. Other IDPA matches are a bit far for me to get to, plus with the weather getting cooler, there is a premium to indoor shooting.

S&W Performance Center .357

I just don't get the desire for the shorter barrel. I don't think your intent is the CQB it or anything, and you mention putting the Ultimak rail on it, so why not just get the extra length?

Go FAL then. Or go Full Size M1A

Pretty much all of the above. That muzzle brake is a brute.

Agreed. Much better weapons IMO.

Thanks! Great advice! The only time I've done an interstate sale, it was to California to an FFL there. I got paid check and had to wait till that cleared, but it worked out in the end.

How about payments... how do you guys do payments for guns without potentially getting screwed over?

If I sell rifles/pistols/shotguns on GB, AL, or FB, can I send the guns directly to the FFL? Or do I have to go through an FFL first? Which is more advantageous? As I understand it, FFLs might be able to ship cheaper using USPS, right? Thanks!

For that purpose, get the 20" version and call it a day.

As mentioned, an FAL, some Glocks, and a really nice revolver.

Buy an FAL But really... I would go with a wood M1A with the full length barrel. It's not much longer than a Scout/Squad and it's not as obnoxious as the SOCOM 16. Do you want to deck it out with crazy setups? Or keep it mostly stock?

How about shotguns these days? Mossberg 930 or Remington 870?

Do the trade-ins have night sights? Just checked -- nope.

FAL will be worth what??? No way!

Looking to cut down my collection... what do Gen 3 Glocks and FN FAL Clones usually go for?

P320 is your best bet. Not only can you change caliber from 9mm to 357SIG to 40SW, you can go from a full size gun down to a subcompact all on one serial number. More useful in NJ where pistol purchases can end up being more limited.

The only problem with 9mm rifles is that we can't have them SBR'd or suppressed. Both of which defeat the purpose of going to a pistol caliber which is to maximize performance while minimizing size. An AR-15 shooting 5.56mm prefers a 14.5" or greater barrel just to get the best performance for that round. Anything shorter, you might as well go pistol caliber, suppress it, and reap the benefits there. IMO, I still believe the best home defense weapon is a 9mm carbine/SMG with RDS, light, and suppressor. Easy to aim, can be handled with one hand, and won't kill your eardrums when you need to use it. Rifles can work, but they're too friggin loud. Shotguns are too unwieldy in enclosed spaces. Pistols can be difficult to aim under pressure or without adequate training.

Last 4 actually... the website operator contacted me at the end of day and told me after filling orders they had 4... Also, FYI, these magazines will not be in stock by this company anymore.

Magpul follower? Won't let me buy more than 1...