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I have all that. So what do I do with it? Take it all with me to the CMP and buy a Garand?

What forms and how?

What paperwork for the CMP? Their website isn't really that great when it comes to detailing what forms you need to fill out...

If we're facing zombies, isn't it wiser to simply hold up in an elevated shooting position where one can aim and kill zombies at their leisure?

Shotgun/Rifle was easy, Bow looks like you need to practice with it. Muzzle-loader was fun. Never shot one before until I took the class.

Nice. How do i do that? Are there any good books or resources on deer hunting?

Yes, definitely. Saving up some money for that now.

Nice! No muzzle loader or rimfire rifle?

Didn't have a bow. I still gotta get one. If I do it within the year, I can skip the general test and walk-through portion of the class and just do the 5 shots and written test for bow.

Now what do I do? What do I need before I can even begin to think about hunting? Heck... I'm not even sure what I want to hunt. Deer is yummy. Turkey is (supposedly) a challenge.

That's great too. This whole thing started because the OP asked for AK options, and out of the blue comes the whole 'stay away from WASRs' business, when it's a perfectly viable option, epecially if all he wanted to add new handguards, change the pistol grip/stock? With a Saiga, that's a decent amount of work. With a WASR, it's considerably less. Sure... you don't have dimples (big whoop), and your dust cover may come dented (which can be replaced), but it's a good stick at a good price. Is a WASR perceived to be better than a Saiga or an Arsenal? Yes. But do either of those do the job of shooting 7.62x39 better than a WASR given their price? Easily debatable (which is what we got going on here). Also, why does it matter what is in your AK? And why do you have to "re-build" it yourself to figure it out? I get the comfort of knowing my AR-15s have Magpul LPKs, BCM uppers, BCM BCGs, DD rails, etc. But given the AK's operating and design tolerances, is it really that important? (serious question, not trying to be snarky)

US Made barrels were the issue there I think... someone on ARFCOM said it best: "we can land on the moon, but apparently, we can't re-create a proper -47/-74 barrel"

Like I said earlier, it worked out for you. In the end, I only spent $460 for a WASR-10 that didn't need any mods and worked out of the box. Sure, 1 of 8 magazines had a tight fit (which it was for both my WASR's, so that's the magazines fault, not the rifle). Sure the dust cover needed a a few love taps with a hammer to fit right (which is moot since Century sent me a new one for free). To me, they're AK-47s... they're all pretty much the same. This isn't the AR world where an out of spec or poorly assembled component means that the rifle will not shoot. You can't hammer an AR-15 and make it work, lol. That's the appeal of the platform. I dunno. I knew all the risks of buying a WASR-10... but since 2008, they've had a pretty good record. Not to mention, no problems you can't easily detect when at the FFL prior to buying it. They got a bad wrap because they were the bottom of the barrel in AK designs for awhile, but now they're much better. Did I mention it was pretty much good to go out of the box? No need to convert anything.

That's the thing that got me when looking to build a Saiga, there is no way you can build your Saiga into what a WASR-10 is without costing more than a WASR-10... If folks want to do it, fine by me. But for an AK-pattern rifle, it really didn't make sense to me.

Oh, nvm, its on Sunday.

I did. So now I have a spare dust cover

Good thing I avoid malls and only shop on Amazon

If a dented dust cover (which was replaced quickly for free) is the only fault in a $460 AK, then I'll take it. I'd rather have that instead of spending time and money replacing/adding parts (trigger, furniture, bullet guide) that the WASR-10 apparently already does. But that was part of my selection process. Not a fault of either rifles' design. WASRs are imported and modded here... Saigas need to be shipped in their config to be sold legally. WASR-10s do come with Chrome Lined Barrels, so that point is moot. (My link) As for the 'rough' action, what does it matter as long as it cycles properly? I too handled both rifles side by side (PK90's store), and guess what? The Saigas trigger was crap and took forever to break. So one can say the similar things about both rifles. As for WASR problems, I already pointed out that they have had them in the past, but the QC at Century seems to be markedly improved. Reports of canted sights in newer rifles have diminished, as have complaints of improperly cut magwells, and trigger slap (fixed with the G2). Sorry to question you and inject an opposing viewpoint. *rolls eyes* I did the same research that you did and came up with a different conclusion. I'm just passing on my thoughts on the WASR-10 series and why they may work for the OP if he wants a rifle that is ready to go, out of the box. I'll admit, I'm still new to the AK platform, but I was just curious to know why the OP is immediately dissuaded from owning a WASR (inferior junk) and persuaded to own a sporting rifle which would require some decent upgrades off the bat. Agreed. Like I said, there are plenty of options there... WASRs, Saigas, Arsenals, etc.

Really? Bad things about the G2? Like what?

So, be on the look out for white gun owning Americans... kk... ...wait a second.

They really couldn't wait until half-time to bore me to death about terrorism? What do they expect us civilians to do anyways? Call in every white van, brown man, and sikh we see? Besides... what are the possible avenues of attack? Bus bombs? Train bombs? Both? Maybe an atomic bomb? Give us something... I have a feeling this may not even really be a threat... I mean, why tip your hand that you know an attack is coming? If I were AQ or some other group, I would just accelerate my plans, or re-double my efforts to conceal them.

Update: Fixed the one mag and got a new dust cover from Century within 2 days of speaking with them. Sighted it in, and it is nice and accurate.

Inferior how? I understand the earlier WASR-10s had their quality issues from CAI, but most of those appear to have been resolved. At least in the two I bought from JetAGENT and PK90. The WASR-10s also come with all the standard AK goodies: wood furniture (which can be fixed up), Tapco G2 triggers (best one on the market for AKs), and chrome lined barrels. Want to change the furniture? Easy peasy, since it's a standard AKM setup, all aftermarket parts fit. As for price... FFL/xfer fees aside, you can get a WASR-10 for what? About $480? $500? A Saiga costs what? $375-400 out of the box? Want a Tapco G2? Add it for $32... Want traditional wood furniture? You can prolly get some from Ironwood designs for what? $90? That's not even including the shipping costs of the extra items. Wait, does your Saiga only take surefire mags? Guess you need a bullet guide! Add $20 (depending on what model you have). At that point ($497-542 depending on what you add), you've gone through a lot of effort just to build what is essentially a WASR-10 with nicer wood. I also get that Saigas are renown to be the "better" AK because they are Russian made and have mag dimples, but do they really have any drastic advantages over their cheaper WASR cousins to justify the added after-purchase work? Not saying you're wrong, but if the OP is looking for a cheap no nonsense build, the WASR-10 is it for the price. If he wants to mess around with an AK and customize it, then the Saiga may be best. If he has the coin and wants the best AK you can buy... Arsenal is the way to go. Just giving the OP some options here.

Why waste time rebuilding a Saiga to suit your needs? Just get a WASR-10/63 legalized for NJ. Then modify that as you see fit.

Is this spring being universally applied to full-size Glocks of all calibers?