DevsAdvocate

LOL, can't you make a belt as long as you want?

Ahh, you know what... I got my FPID in 2008 in Clark, NJ and got printed there manually or whatever. Didn't pay the $60.25... I moved to Morristown, and only had to do the Change of Address BS for my FPID, so that's why it was only $18... I already had the SBI number. LOL, sucks for my brother

Put in for some Pistol Permits yesterday in Morristown, NJ... usually they are quick, but they got a new guy doing the firearms paperwork... he said those were the first PPs that he has ever submitted... bleh.

http://www.townofmorristown.org/index.asp?Type=B_LIST&SEC={B4C17943-3F9D-4F65-BC97-C47124303DFF} I got mine a year ago, and it was an $18 flat fee for the 'NJSP - SBI' check...

Caught how? The cops have bigger fish to catch in that kind of a criminal environment.

I dunno, if things ever get bad enough where crime is happening at my doorstep, I would just start carrying without the states' permission. If they can't control the criminals that are already out there, then they're not gonna be able to do squat about me. The only difference between NJ and 'free' states at that point is that I'll just go on my merry way after shooting a carjacker/mugger/etc. instead of dialing 911. Why stick around and be punished if I don't have to?

That'll irritate an attacker.

I can't wait to "de-tacticalize" my 870... black is booooring! Hello wood!

5.56 is less likely to penetrate interior walls than 9mm, .40, or .45... http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot1.htm http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot2.htm http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot3.htm http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot14.htm Only 12ga penetrates the least, but it'll still go through 3-4 interior walls (which is still alot!) Also, even in NJ, you can make an AR-15 very compact (pin the stock all the way collapsed and 14.5" bbl), and it will definitely be shorter than any CX 4, Kriss Vector, or 12ga shotgun while still easy to handle. So discounting it as a practical HD weapon may be a bit premature. It also holds more ammunition than any NJ legal shotgun (unless you have a ridiculous pump), can mount rails and accessories as well. Up to the OP though... but it's ice to have options My only issue with ARs and shotguns for HD is where to stow the thing safely, and out of the way. I use a cleaning service for my home (my brother and I suck at cleaning), and I'd rather keep the long guns in the safe. I use a 9mm for now until I get my .45ACP back from Glock.

What was NJShoot again?

Or he was able to afford the fancy toys and the other guy was too poor to get them

Which I don't understand. If you got someone for committing one crime, then just stick with that. I don't understand why robbing a 7/11 with Body Armor, a 17 round Magazine, loaded with JHPs is any more dangerous than doing it without all those accouterments.

That would pretty much invalidate any of the blocked magazines that NJ gun owners use though. Have there been any major cases where this has come up?

Yeah. I was investigating the possibility of welding a plastic rod in a certain magazine to limit it to 15 rounds. But if I could modify the follower... that would be even better.

That's my thinking... If you ever get busted, or your mags get tested, the only thing that matters is: can they hold more than 15 rounds in their current configuration. And is the modification permanent to the extent that without using tools or breaking parts, it can't be modified.

That's insane! What good is a magazine that can't be taken apart for cleaning?

Let's say I someone goes into PA and buys some magazines. These magazines have a capacity greater than 15 rounds and are illegal in NJ. The visitor in this free state knows that they cannot possess these mags in his crappy home state... so he takes a rod and welds it to the magazines' floor plate to block it at 15 rounds. He can still disassemble the magazines (remove the spring and follower) to clean them by removing the floor plate, but given the components, it's capacity is always 15 rounds. He can remove the welded rod with tools, or a hammer, or with some leverage, but it's not something he can do on the fly. If he buys a replacement floor plate, then he can restore it's capacity to 15+... but he has none in NJ among his possession. Is this illegal?

Comments are tearing the OP apart.

Those are nice 1911s, I have one myself.

Treacherous scumbag... he should be in jail, not the Senate.

Look at Colt King Cobras. You can get used and new ones for a good deal (if you're patient and know where to look, and they're better than most modern p.o.s. revolvers with their MIM parts and Hillary Locks. http://njgunforums.com/forum/index.php?/topic/9402-the-official-njgf-photo-thread/page__view__findpost__p__349776 That, or old S&Ws and Rugers. Preferably before 1993.

Usually when restricting the rights of many to punish a few, you ask: how does "evil feature" legislation stop crime?

That's unfortunate. Sorry to hear that.

Why did you have your SSCs with you? Never keep those on your person.

Safeties are stupid. The only ones I like are drop safeties (which basically protect the gun from discharging when dropped). Everything else just gets in the way.