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Problem with the early Sigmas is that they pretty much ripped off the Glock design... in fact, it's hard to be original these days when making a striker fired weapon that doesn't borrow a all of it's design features from what Glock introduced in the 1980s. I mean, that's fine I guess... keeps Glock from having a Monopoly.

Basically playing out the Glock playbook. Hook them in cheap, and real em in with the accessories and service. M&Ps are nice though. Better than S&W's first foray into making plastic fantastics... the god-forsaken sigma series.

Hello, when will you have this item in stock again?

If you have one available, that would be swell. I'd like to try my little experiment out and see if a drop-in replacement like the CTR would fit.

Yepp. It's a little above 10". What's the implication in using a CAR buffer or standard? Is that the spring thing? Or the weight?

That's the point. This way I avoid having to "pin" a stock. This length fits me well, and I can get an aftermarket "drop-in" stock that would slip on while having the advantages of a longer extension tube. I want to build a lower with a Magpul CTR stock using this type of extension. Is that possible?

Here are some pics to show what I'm talking about...

I'm interested. I was thinking of maybe buying a Magpul CTR stock and putting it on that. Since the CTR is a drop in replacement, it should fit on the post-ban extension... or is my thinking off entirely?

How long is an A1 tube extension?

So... I know many of you own AR-15's with pinned faux-collapsible stocks. Many of which are held into a Mil-Spec looking extended carbine buffer tube with one screw hole. At leas that's how Stag and S&W do it... Are these tubes for sale anywhere? Also, how long is a normal carbine buffer extension?

Yeah... I was thinking the VLTOR rifle length mod-stock in A1 length. That's about 10" long and is roughly equal to my current stock setup.

Here's a pic of the finished product... all that is left is the buffer retention thingy + spring + takedown pin + takedown detent pin and spring... Gotta figure out what stock I want now.

All done... Just gotta order a stock to finish it.

Building my lower today, got all the tools and a block of wood for the trigger guard assembly. Even loaded the AR-15 pdf onto my e-reader for instructions. Wish me luck!

Snip Where do you think businesses get the money from to pay their overhead? Do you know what overhead is? The business owner pays for taxes, rent or mortgage, fire permits, business licenses, utilities and anything else you see and don't see at their place of business. Where would you expect them to get the money if not from sales to customers. That's right customers pay for everything. On line sellers have lower overhead per unit and therefor can sell for less. Sometimes they are just a computer and order direct from a manufacturer or distributor and stock nothing. You place order, they place order and ship to you. Thought I should add these. I get upset when people think business should carry a larger load than individuals. Example--"those big corporations should pay all the taxes and let us folks alone. " "The government should help us out, there should be a program for that." Well those big corporations and the government get their money from you folks. So you pay anyhow. You should buy from the seller you trust and feel comfortable with. I know that. But from an economic sense, it's all about competition. Customers will always want the best for the cheapest rate. If the business wants to pass on a lot of overhead to me, when there are cheaper options out there, then they can expect to lose business. But if they maintain competitive pricing, then they will maintain sales.

That's simply a matter of requirements definition.

Ended up buying through the online Vendor. I feel a little bad though because I still want to support the local stores somehow. For the price I got it, after paying everything (transfer/NICS), would still be $30 cheaper than the in-store price before taxes and NICS. And I could pick it up 10 minutes away from where I live.

I say it comes down to the M&P45 and the Glock21. Both are equal in construction and reliability.

Pythons will have that problem given their lineage. Their internals were carried over from Colt revolvers designed for .38 special, you shoot legit .357 magnums and you'll see timing issues and other issues crop up.

This is true. But how often does one find issues with ammo types or their tolerance?

Shane, those revolvers you're seeing fail... are they new ones? Or older ones from the 80's and before?

But it's not when looking at it from a mechanical point of view. A semi-auto when it comes down to it's basic parts is mechanically less complicated than your typical revolver. 90% of the work in a semi-auto is done by the cartridge itself, in the form of cycling the weapon back. Then the rest depends on proper spring forces in both the recoil and extractor spring. A revolver, disassembled, is like a watch that must be timed properly in order to function. Unlike a semi-auto, the full-force of the magnum bullet is imparted on those mechanical components, and the second you cheap out there (which is what S&W and Taurus does), you will begin to see a lot of failures. I may be new to guns, but as an engineer, I can see quality workmanship in both the design of modern revolvers and their material construction. Those things today are cheaply made compared to the wheelguns of yesteryear.

I firmly believe that Revolver reliability has gone down in recent years as manufacturers struggled to cut production and material costs. The advent of lightweight alloy revolvers also doesn't help as they can not handle the recoil forces from high-powered ammo like the .357 and .44 magnums. There were reasons revolvers were built to be heavy and like a brick shithouse.

I'm in the same boat. The local shop is charging a lot more, but I can drive the same distance to a local FFL to transfer and online purchase. I'd love to support the local guy, but they need to be reasonable. I once showed them the price I found online and asked them to come down on price a little, and they refused.

So, I'm looking to buy a S&W 22a (.22lr), and I decided to look at some local shops, with some places pricing them at $360 or $350. So being a cheapskate, I went online and began shopping around... found the same pistol on Buds: $268.00 http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/21_39_71/products_id/26232 So... even with the NICS fee and FFL transfer fee (usually $35), the gun from the online source still comes out $45-55 cheaper than if I went to my local shops. Now, don't get me wrong, I love to support local businesses, but not if it means a feeling like a sucker and paying way over sticker price. I also get that stores all have overhead they need to deal with, but that's passing a lot onto the consumer. Does anyone here notice this often? Do you buy local? Or just buy online? Also... anyone here use a S&W 22A? How do you like it?