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Got a 24 gun safe from Stack-On... They had one left, the display model. I had the manager knock off 10% off the sale price ($550 --> $55). So that combined with the $50 rebate it comes with, I got it for $445. Safe weighs 430 lbs... $445/430 = $1.03/lb of safe... not bad for something that was $700 normally. Too bad... I heard on Black Friday, this safe started at $450... sigh.

Got one...

Just because you centralize, doesn't mean you give up on manpower. So instead of having 10 little fiefdoms, you'll have one main policing organization subdivided into areas of responsibility. It's been done before... almost everywhere else in this country.

Our system doesn't work. How many damned police departments do we need for all our towns and municipalities? Just make a county police and be done with it.

It's about time NJ took a step into the 20th and 21st centuries... in almost every other state in this country, policing is done by the county level. Only in cities do you see their own dedicated police forces. Frankly, NJ could stand for a redrawing of many areas to properly classify urban zones, suburban, and rural zones. But good luck with that!

Well, if we're talking the SHTF... I'm pretty sure there aren't any FFLs or NICS checks available.

Ammo? Noooo. Trading weapons and ammo is silly, especially when it can be used against you down the road.

Smokes are very useful when the SHTF... stock up on them, even if you're not a smoker.

Business decision. This "Freedom Group" has it's hands in too many pots.

There was a lot of talk about how SA took a $250 croation HS2000, slapped their name on it, added the striker indicator and loaded chamber indicator, and retailed it at around the same as a Glock.

Sig 556? Shoots 5.56mm, uses a modified and improved AK gas system and bolt. Compatible with existing AR magazines...

There is also the fact XDs are known to break down way earlier than Glocks and M&Ps...

Meh. Despite the fact we may not have any choice in the matter, this new law still sucks. It's not even a marginal step in the right direction... hell, it's ****, just a different shade of brown and consistency.

No, they do some serious competitions to determine who gets what. But I will concede, Glock and the M&P are the top two contenders in the pistol market. Took S&W some time to develop a contender though... their first attempt was quite brutal... *cough* Sigma Series *cough* So lest we forget, Glock came first, all imitators followed.

I'm in the pro-ceremony, anti-helicopter flyover crowd. Who pays for these ceremonies anyways? The police union? Or the taxpayers?

I ranked it based on what I see PDs around the country using. Glock is by far a #1... followed by M&P. Very few departments use the XD.

Glock > M&P > XD

I guess it's a good start... was that Sweeney standing next to him?

So how does this bill meet your criteria of "small increments at a time with heavy pressure"? It's retarded, does nothing to address any of the issues in our firearms laws, and can only lead to more abuse by the politicians on us. A proper counter proposal for this particular bill is to create a H-FPID card that replaces the current FPID (once someone is above the age of 21), removes criteria for a P2P, and is good for life. If we're not getting that, they can keep this rag of "legislation".

And we probably won't see that. But I see no reason to accept table scraps from our great Legislative masters. If Fred Madden is really in trouble in his district over OGAM, then we should dictate the terms to save his reputation, not him. Otherwise, he can take this bill and shove it up his fat a**. I'd rather take nothing than more BS.

Screw Madden, he fucked us over, why should we go easy on him now? This bill sucks. It's not an improvement, and it's just not worth it. I say we emulate PA's gun laws. That should be our goal, and press that thought into the skulls of these empty-headed politicians.

fugg em'. And fugg him too. If this proposal dies, it's not like things are any worse. This by net worth is anti-gun, so his loss is our gain. We deserve a voice to openly talk to him about the issue, and this would go further than his simple constituency.

Fred Madden should hold a town hall on the issue.

If I have the time, I am going to do a 6-sigma treatment of NJ gun laws, and try to determine how much money can be saved for the state, how much is earned presently, and where useless redundancies are.

I find this whole thing hilarious. For a long time, the Federal Government has been perceived as this awesome, impenetrable force. Keeping it's secrets because the politicians in charge think they know better... but now, the cracks are showing, and the facade is slowing being revealed. For a long time, I felt that the Government of this nation was no longer "of the people, by the people, for the people"... Trust in this government is shot. It's going to take a lot of change before it is regained, if ever.