DevsAdvocate

If you don't like it, then you can work for someone else. It's their business, and their money to hire you with.

What right do you have telling a business owner how to run their business?

For a "gun" forum, I'm hearing a lot of liberal bs here. An employer who owns their company should have a great deal of leeway as to their hiring practices. If you're business is financial, dealing with sensitive information, or hell: even selling guns, you're going to want to know your employees are trustworthy. Why? 1. If they're not, you may be penalized for their crimes. Let's say someone is in debt and works at your bank, what if they sell privileged information to a competitor or some scam artist who can steal your identity. What if they work in a gun shop and start selling guns on the side and claim they went "missing". Who gets in trouble there? Who get's all the hassle? The owner. 2. It hurts you're bottom line. These people will steal from you when they can and lie to your face. As Maks said: if you're honest and upfront about your financial issues, you will not have any problems. That being said though: if you want to work at Walmart, a background check really isn't needed.

Well... price too.

But what's the big diff between a 930 and a 11-87?

Those cost a bit more than a 930... what are the advantages?

I thought handcuff guy's gun was a High Power...

Also, guys, what's the rules on semi-auto shotguns in NJ? Less than 6 round capacity, fixed stock, no pistol grip = ok? I'm looking at a Mossberg 930, so I want to make sure it's all legal eagle.

The price isn't firm, what are you willing to pay? PM me. Do you have anything to trade too? AR Lower? Ammo?

I'm sorry I couldn't make it. I had to do some work around the house, and by the time I was planning to head over to Sparta I was too "in the zone" to simply stop doing my renovation work. Maybe next time.

My 870 is up for sale in the marketplace if you wanna look. Remington 870 Make an offer, If you have something to trade that would be cool too.

Sent. Didn't even realize it could be full already.

Thanks guys! I work at Picatinny, so I can use that as a reference point...

I may be interested... where in Sparta? And can I borrow a shotgun? I doubt my 870 tactical is good for trap/skeet.

I won't lie, the three tits may have a role in protecting the soda in case you drop it. By not having definitive corners, the energy may be dispersed throughout the design if you drop it. I standard cylinder bottom may not provide that.

I'm suggesting that marketing told the engineer to do it... and so the engineer did. If it's over engineered, then it wasn't done by an engineer. My school of thought, and what was taught to me, is that the difference between an engineer and a regular person is that an engineer should never have to over engineer something if they have properly taken into account all the risks and stresses in a design.

An engineer would've made the most cost-effective and simple shape possible. Your problem rests with marketing.

Very true. But if you want to be the next big thing on the firearms scene, like the AK or AR, it would be preferable to maximize availability. Tis a shame though... If the Masada design were contracted out to multiple manufacturers it could have very well been the next AR, maybe even making it's case for adoption by the US Military. Who do you think owns the patent btw? Magpul? Or Cerberus?

It would benefit MagPul if they got royalties off each ACR built. More manufacturers usually equal lower prices, but not necessarily lower quality. Bushmaster/Remington have a monopoly, and when that happens, the only one being screwed is the customer. Either way, it will be 20 years before we see a Masada built by another manufacturer.

What? Did they jerk off a unicorn for that coating??

But with AR-15s and 1911s you have a plethora of choices... High quality/High price or Low quality/Low price and everything in between. If the ACR wants to become a popular platform, even one to be considered along with the AK market, it needs a lot of builders, and lower prices. Tell me: what is so substantially different between the ACR and AR-15 to justify it's almost 3x cost?

For what they charge for an ACR? Yes. But it's more of an issue of competition between manufacturers to improve quality and drive down prices. If you want to take on the AR platform, then you need to do that. Question: how did it happen that so many manufacturers were allowed to make the AR-15, even though it was once a Colt/Armalite design?

The ACR would be better if it was built like the AR-15, by multiple manufacturers.

Go for it. I think there is one for sale in the Marketplace... Engineerjet is parting with it.

Nope. But general badassery costs quite a bit.