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On 9/11 there must have been a thousand of those reported.

Right now Penn station has more news trucks in front than cops. Seventh avenue side anyway.

What are you thinking it is?

That was my first thought too.

Prayers that the two dead were suicide bombers and not the public

This is so unbelievably frustrating. "Discovery," I just found out, is not available in New York City for traffic court. I just drove in the exact same route this morning and noted three Port Authority cameras in the locations of my route. One at the exit of the tunnel, one at a turn off where taking the left fork makes it impossible for me to do what the cop said. One at the intersection of 32nd street anDyer Avenue. And to top it off, there is a Post Office with 5 cameras all facing towards the southbound approach on Dyer to 30th street that I had taken. In other words the entire span from the tunnel to the actual intersection where the officer alleges I was south-bound turning east ( instead of eastbound heading east) had a camera on it. A total of 6 minutes worth of footage is all I need. I not only can't use that in NYC traffic court, I can't even ask for it. The thing that kills me is that the cop stopped me and was all smiles. He simply said "you know your supposed to use the left turn lane to make a left turn right?" And when he said it it made absolutely no sense to me. So I said "I'm sorry, I'm not sure I understand" This went back and forth and he was nice and polite. I was perfectly respectful. I am talking to a NYC based lawyer now and he says to me "I have been doing this a long time and never once has any of my clients said the cop was respectful. I told him "well let me be the first." In retrospect, the problem was that while he was trying to be a nice guy and give me a warning, I was completely taken off guard by what he was saying. Left turn? Huh? a left turn would have been against traffic into ninth avenue." So while I was confused and answering truthfully, he was thinking "can't this asshole see I am trying to let him go? Why can't he just admit to it?" So in retrospect, I would have been okay if I had lied and said "sorry" instead of sticking with the truth. The lawyer says that given the restrictions of NYC traffic court, the most succesful ploy is holding off the trial as long as possible. I can save $1800 in insurance. Just what I need on my license when I am looking to lease a 2013 Camry. I can't believe my only recourse is to go the sleazeball route of gaming the system with an attorney. I can't tell you how much doing things that way disgusts me and apparently I am forced to do it now. I might just need get to the range for a while.

"administrative" is the only word I have been told today to describe it. Furthermore, the ticket hasn't even been entered yet so I can't plead to it on line. I think I can go in person with the ticket to plead to it. Perhaps going with the ticket, making the plea and then handing the judge a letter can be done all at once? Also, Miapafox, I don't think OPRA is part of NY State law.

Great. Enter this is in the "how messed up is that" catagory. Video recordings are not admissible in traffic court in NYC. So even though it is likely that a camera recorded me going straight through the interection instead of this F'ed up accusation that I made a left turn, as well as the officer pulling me over on the same camera, I can't use it. So now I am forced to do the B.S. (and personally demeaning) "man trying to beat the system" delay tactics in court that every other guilty person does instead of just showing that going straight is not the same as going left. This is going to cost me $500 because some jackass can't use his eyes or engage his brain. Great day to be an American. I'm trying to figure out how being "innocent until proven guilty" happens when the only evidence admited is the officer's ticket.

Understood. And thanks again. This is very helpful. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

That's great. I can work with that. Thanks. Just to be clear though, I am not trying to disprove the training of a radar gun. I was going straight down a street, eastbound, through four intersections. At the third intersection I was given a ticket for making an illegal left turn from a southbound street onto the same eastbound street I had been driving eastbound on for the previous two intersections. In other words, it just didn't happen. How It got to that point is for me to bring up in front of a judge and I don't want to be "that guy". But the facts will be well born out from the Port Authority cameras. I want to sincerely thank everyone that responded to this thread. Getting the evidence makes all the difference. Showing the truth is far better than whining about " why would I do that"

Did you have to have subpoenas submitted in person? Port authority says i have to and they are unbelievably helpful. So much so that I feel I owe them at least a drink. But The one camera at the actual intersection that it happened may not be recorded. However, the one-way street I was actually on, not the one they said I was on, runs past a loading dock for a large USPS station. I would feel pretty certain that the USPS loading docks have cameras and they are recording, so the subpoena for the USPS cameras might be a stretch though. Anyway, I bought the guide. It is helping me a lot. Thanks again. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Officer issued. But there are traffic cameras all over that intersection. One is streamed over the web via DOT. If that was recording the case is over. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Yea, that might have to be the way. I was hoping to not have to pay one though. One particular camera would be all the proof i need though. If i got that footage and pressed play case would be dismissed, no discussion, no Q & A- just an early lunch. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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I need to some advice. I need to get some traffic cam footage for traffic court. To get it from the Port authority they need a notice of subpeona. Would I be right to assume that once I plead not guilty and there is a trial date assigned that I can get the judge to issue the subpeona? Would there be any other way?

I come from a very liberal family background and my parents are both psychologists. They have told me many times that if it weren't for me being able to explaining the gun laws and other particulars they would think all guns should be banned. I am very happy to say that I have been able to talk to and convince them that; -Ordering 6,000 rounds of ammuntion via the internet is not an indicator of intent, explaining the hazmat fees and volume discounts. It holds a lot of weight with them when I tell them I order a few thousand every year. - That there is great fear that anti gun mental health pracitioners will add people to the prohibited list if given the chance merely to stop everyone they can. In this regard, I feel I made a great contribution to their circles. To start them thinking about how their profession is the big question mark as well as big reason for resistance to passing new laws has given them pause. After all, they do want to do what is fair. They get it. - That 76 bills in New Jersey alone, let alone all the garbage in New York, is the gravest of concerns and that Obama talking about a federal AWB means nothing in their state (NY) because of state legislation banning them anyway. -That people that do not know anything about guns need to talk to people that do so that whatever they are planning really does make as much sense as they think it does. You should have seen them recoil when I told them about the bill to put an F on NJ state drivers licenses. I find I really like being the one they listen too when it comes to the debate. If it were not for me they would get no good information at all.

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How would they know any different from every other night I do this?

Hmm i was just at the car show and have been asking the same questions. A guy there spoke of a 12,000 mile a year lease. But i started thinking to late to ask what are the typical milage allotment choices on a lease. Anyone know? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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I am embarrased to say that it took me twenty seconds to figure out what this meant... a little

I am at a loss as to how to proceed with this. I need to have the bike there for whoever would fabricate this in order to take the measurements because it's pretty tight. I don't have a trailer to take the motorcycle to a facility and riding it there would have to be a very short distance. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Useless as it was.. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

The main thing I got from this discussion on this news show was that when Wayne LaPierre said there should be stricter enforcement of the existing laws, those on the panel afterwards said "isn't it ironic that the NRA is talking about more enforcement. " When I first joined the NRA they were at least a decade into discussing how lax the enforcement of the federal laws were. What was missed in this discussion is that the NRA has been talking about the lax enforcement of federal law for at least 20 years. And that, I think, is what most of the antis don't get. They do not understand that we are concerned that existing laws are not enforced by the government. They instead believe that the government is handcuffed by laws that have been prevented or enacted at the behest of the NRA. Yes I agree it was a good interview for Wayne LaPierre at this time. But I still believe the points could've been hit harder. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Wife saw me reacting to this and thought someone died. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk