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Aw man. Was trying to search all yesterday too. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

The Atlantic is as liberal as they come. Some friends I took shooting with some other forum members sent this to me. That day of shooting just keeps coming back positive. http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2012/12/the-case-for-more-guns-and-more-gun-control/309161/ "Many gun-control advocates, and particularly advocates of a total gun ban, would like to see the United States become more like Canada, where there are far fewer guns per capita and where most guns must be registered with the federal government. The Canadian approach to firearms ownership has many attractions—the country’s firearm homicide rate is one-sixth that of the U.S. But barring a decision by the American people and their legislators to remove the right to bear arms from the Constitution, arguing for applying the Canadian approach in the U.S. is useless. Even the leading advocacy group for stricter gun laws, the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, has given up the struggle to convince the courts, and the public, that the Constitution grants only members of a militia the right to bear arms. “I’m happy to consider the debate on the Second Amendment closed,” Dan Gross, the Brady Campaign’s president, told me recently. “Reopening that debate is not what we should be doing. We have to respect the fact that a lot of decent, law-abiding people believe in gun ownership.” "I had been an LIRR commuter not long before this happened, and I remember clearly my reaction to the slaughter, and I remember as well the reaction of many New York politicians. Much of the political class, and many editorialists, were of the view that the LIRR massacre proved the need for stricter gun control, and even for the banning of handguns. I shared—and continue to share—the view that muscular gun-control regulations, ones that put stumbling blocks in front of criminals seeking firearms, are necessary. But I was also seized by the thought that, had I been on the train, I would much rather have been armed than unarmed. I was not, and am not, under the illusion that a handgun would have necessarily provided a definitive solution to the problem posed by Colin Ferguson. But my instinct was that if someone is shooting at you, it is generally better to shoot back than to cower and pray." For those that know, this is really like hell freezing over. This article is a page turner. Savor it over breakfast. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I think that we all agree in the end but I'm trying to point out a slight difference in the logic in how I got there. I don't think a lot of people considered that it's not that you're protecting your property it's that you're protecting yourself while you're investigating a person on your own property. That person might be a criminal they might not be you don't want to be just calling the police on someone either. i believe this is an important distinction. It isn't threatening to kill someone over property, it is about protecting yourself while you're checking something out. That Thief could well turn into your murderer if he feels he can get away with it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

This worked out pretty well. I was able to talk to some people that don't usually consider owning guns but they're okay with other people having guns. They hadn't realized how much people can be prejudiced against other people that have guns. I'm putting this one in the win column. : ) I actually kind of turned it around and made it something positive Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Yes actually. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I can't believe i am the inly one that sees it this way buy iy makes perfect sense to me. If i saw someone near my generator or whatever and thought perhaps they would steal it I would be out side to see if my PRESENCE scared them off. In that case you get the "fight or flight" reaction. I want "flight" but showing my handgun is ready makes them think twice about "fight." So i am not brandishing and threatening to kill someone over my property, I am convincing them that leaving is better than coming at me. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWLlwgTxZHw

There's a gaping flaw in her combat stance. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Not seeing much in the bathtub one though. Don't see anything really.

Did he have full body armor? Last I had read he had a load beraing vest and bullet resistant leggings. I guess we see how much this guy reads up on the subject. I love how the fact that although everyone here in this group agrees it would have been a tricky situation as a carrying CCW citizen, especially if he actually had full body armor, that this guy thinks WE believe we could have magically ended it somehow. LIke we can't have a practical thought about the subject, ever. Or that you need an m-4 to take down a guy with an m-4. Like there would have been absoluelty no effect of shooting at him with pistol.

Thanks Mark I had a brief talk. I decided not to make a big thing out of it but I had to mention it. He's the kind of guy that no-one can tell him anything so we will have to see if he ever does that again.

Commentators have noted that the DNA proteins shown may not all be from blood: http://www.rachelhulin.com/blog/2010/06/angela-strassheims-evidence.html "Evidence is a group of photographs taken at homes where familial homicides have occurred. Long after the struggles have ended in these spaces, despite the cleaning, repainting and subsequent re-habitation of these homes, the “Blue Star” solution activates the physical memory of blood through its contact with the remaining DNA proteins on the walls. The black and white images are long exposures – from ten minutes to one hour – with minimal ambient night light pouring in from the crevices of windows and doors, capturing the physical presence of blood as a lurid glow."

The guys I work with closely ask me about hunting and shooting regularly and I am very happy to talk like a mature adult about anything they like. I even took one shooting and he went right out and got a FPID and owns a M&P now. Years ago I was with a different department within the company and they wished me well when I was deployed, big party and everything so there plenty that have no issue and actively seek me out for discussion. And as you know I work in television too. It's the blurting out to a room full of people I don't know that don't know me or my boss when people are getting fired that I have issue with. He isn't a gun owner so I don't think he understands the concern.

Hehehe. Nice. I really wish I had been that quick with a response. Normally I'd laugh it off but there have been layoffs with more on the way. I am going to mention this to him in private today. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Dupe

Dupe 2. Jeez

I agree with this and will add that your post is not merely staistics, it is a report by the very association that has nearly all of control over the mental health checks. No one should ignore the significance of that

Busting balls, but I am more concerned about those other people in earshot. I am thinking I should mention to him directly how people can percieve those comments.

My boss, being in a semi-humorous mood, asks me outside the door to a conference room full of secretaries and managers "hey, can you get me some guns? lots of them? really big ones? You can do that right cuz you were in the Army?" And BTW this is in Manhattan over by Penn Station. He was joking of course, but what the hell? Thinking I might go to HR about it but I am not usually that kind of person. jeez.

Well, on the flip side I have met three vegetarians that agree they have no issues with people eating the animal they shot after sitting in a tree all day. They all agree about the slaughterhouse though. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

This is very true. I will put it out there that one VERY important part of this particular web forum is how much the blue and the red merge. If one were to not consider the left or right's economic or other gigantic BS talking spin points you have to realize that pro 2A people could really have it great if "both" candidates equally were pro 2A or at least hands off. Honestly, we have to be a little happy that 2A issues never came up once in the debates. Sure people threw out what they _thought_ each candidates intent was, but neither one wanted to come right out and say they were for more controls. In many ways that is a victory. In other words, the further 2A is from other polarizing slow burn issues, i.e., abortion, and commonly accepted the better off we are.

Jr cigar sampler packs are generally pretty good. However they are much easier to find on their website than in their store. Although i will add that if anyone wanted to get me some cigars i would hope for El Ray del Mundo http://www.jrcigars.com/index.cfm?page=cigars&brand=el%20rey%20del%20mundo Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

- Major Rusty Bradley Lions of Kandahar: The Story of a Fight Against All Odds

fugg him. I spent a year not seeing a single douche bag shooting at me and mine. When the Kiowas took out 3 with one missile we were overjoyed. Three was the magic number. We figured that was an IED team and we owed the some serious payback after they took some of ours. fugg him... Seriously. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk