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Some interesting answers. It sounds like she would be working in the busiest and most policed area if she got the job. However the fact that this company has gone out of their way to ask her to work there makes me think they are having problems getting people to either start work there or continue to work there. Afraid to start working there is one thing, especially if you have never been there. If they are having problems keeping people there that is entirely different. We will have to see how it plays out through the job interviews and such. We are some jaded New Yorkers and she lived in Spanish Harlem for seven years so we have a taste of what it is like to live in some unsavory areas. However these are different times. Different now because I am older and worry more.

That's the area the job is at too. Thanks for the info.

Correct Big Hayden. That is what I was asking. I suppose the lack of resonses about actual cases of this tripping people up are either non-existant and just no one cared to reply. In any case, I will ask the officer in charge and see what he would do. Thanks guys.

THis is an odd question but I have to ask it. I know Newark has seen some pretty high crime but my wife has been out of work for 10 months and has a pretty good line for a job in Newark. It would be a nearly 9-5 job and she would take the train to and from Newark Broad street. We really need her emplyed again but I have my fears. She is 50 not at all inclined to accept that there are bad people out there. We did move here from Queens and she worked in Manhattan, but I don't know anything about Newark at all. any insight?

I am just wondering. It seems we all here in this forum are under the impression that if you apply for a carry permit and get rejected, that rejection wil be noted and given as a reason for further rejection of simple Pistol purchaser permits. It seems logical but I wonder if it has actually happened or are we just assuming. In my town the officer in charge of permits is a good man and I say hello to him when I see him. I had thought to ask him him what he would do, since it would be mostly up to him to make the decision to reject a pistol permit based on a rejected CCW permit. Does anyone know of any case laws or facts about this before I ask him and make a fool out of myself?

Red tails v act of valor. What a lovely dilemma

News report with a little more info http://www.ktla.com/videogallery/67586690/News/VIDEO:-Deadly-Police-Shooting-Caught-on-Camera---Olga-Ospina-reports

They burst in yelling "POLICE!" If I heard that and I was upstairs like the people in the story, I would hesitate before getting my pistol. Interesting deek'. I suppose I knew they could do that, but it gets me thinking.

Theres another story linked on the bottom recounting a home invasion. This is pretty distressing, but at least good insight into how some criminals operate. http://abclocal.go.c...rime&id=8519560

Then things have changed, a lot. Must have been when the stock tanked and they revamped their image to stay alive in the new economy- Back when their "venti" was $5. I am glad they have changed that because I can tell you for sure that that was not how they rolled where I lived. And honestly, $2.05 is still too much for a cup of coffee.

So strange sometimes to see the minute differences in how others perceive the same thing. I see that video and exactly what I do not see is time to do anything. They had procedures they were obviously trained to do but the guy left the building and had no concept that there were police there. He was just walking away. I look at the video and I just see the deceased as two steps ahead of his own good and one step ahead of the procedures those cops were trying to run through. One last thought here. People witnessing that kind of stuff for the first time in their lives will always be dumasses. Let me rephrase that, young males in a group will act that way. They sure got quiet after about 10 seconds didn't they? That is so much like any time the young kids in my platoon came under fire. Happy as hell and videotaping. And then they have PTSD. Ask me about the time we had a mile long fuel convoy get shelled while we were stopped to "stretch." little bastards started laughing and taping the HE rounds going off. We had to grab a few and tell them to start driving. No one takes all that death stuff seriously until it is right in their face. Ever see this video? Their reactions were a little better than the average I saw in my ordinance battalion, but compared to the cops they were retards. I actually did use this video as a training aid once I got back. Everyone's a Cool Hand Luke until...

Gotta love a place where the secret hand shake is some pretentious Italian words and an extra buck fifty for some coffee. I like the Starbucks and guns t-shirt but I'm never going to go back after the 14th. I think a nice Glock shirt that I can wear afterward will be a good investment. I can afford it because I use the free coffee machine at work.

I don't think anyone is questioning that. Its the time leading up to it that I find worthy of discussion.

at least she fired a warning shot ... oh wait that's illegal

I agree 100% But it again points out to us (except RayRay the kind of stuff cops have to think about. I know I have considered what I might have to do in an active shooter situation. Heck even the building management where I work has had people come in talk about what to do in an active shooter situation. Never once did I think an about active smasher situation.

Ehh quit 'cher bitchin or I'll release the dog.

Yea, I have to admit I have looked this over from all angles about a year and a half ago. My previous neighbor came by and knew I was looking to go shooting, back when I first moved here. He was a former cop and complained the the squirrels had eaten the wiring in his wife's Lexus. It cost him $3000 in repairs. He was not living in the house but was trying to sell it and he said "you see any of those little bastards feel free to waste 'em, and bring your friends." Well I looked into what it would take, found all the laws then convinced myself I really needed to get a hunting license and take up the hobby. If it weren't for squirrels I wouldn't have started looking into it. But looking into it I realized how just doing something as silly as shooting a squirrel with a BB gun or poisoning them, in NJ might get all my guns taken from me.

Because that is what i read that he did. Maybe he beat someone in there but I haven't read that anywhere yet. I have a better question for you, what makes you think a guy breaking things with a tool shows intent to do bodily harm? No one saw anything in that video that indicated he was going to injure anyone until he turned on that cop. Same could be said about a guy carrying a pool cue or a bat doing the same thing. Sure you would be wise to be wary, but It went from property damage to deadly in the blink of an eye. If you read more into it than that I would really like to know why.

Yes but those methods have to be within the legal guidelines set forth in the hunting laws, trapping laws, relocation laws and euthanasia laws. It isn't a blank check, so to speak.

Re. Sending the dog in early. The way I see it, all the guy was doing was property damage. I do not see any reason to send a dog into that. They confronted him, obviously asked him to stop and tried less than lethal action. Most likely the dog was a next step, especially after he shouldered it. But that last wind up, it sure looked to me like he was not just going to beat him, he looked .2 seconds away from hitting the officer in the temple or top of of the skull. Dog or not, the lag time for the dog wouldn't have stopped that. It's like my platoon sergeant told me once, " the thing about life and death situations is how fast it happens." They want from setting up for a take down for vandalism to OH ****! And the only option at exactly that moment seemed to be to shoot. If there had been even 10 more feet of space between pepper spray officer and the guy the dog might have kept him alive.

NICE!!!

again, there is a squirrel season in NJ. As such, if you do not follow the hunting guidleines while taking them you are breaking the law, or if you follow the guildleines but take them out of season you are poaching. Air rifles are stricly illegal for hunting anythin in NJ. Blow guns are not specificaly allowed. In both cases, illegal.

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That is correct. The way I read it is a homeowner that has no houses or occupied building within 150 feet of their house can take squirrel with a bow (and perhaps crossbow) as long as they are shooting from an elevated position and a properly licensed hunter.