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Hell, a wild ass guess usually gets you 50%. This is plain falsification of numbers to justify a point.

OBRPC, range is consideted hot when loaded gun is in hoster. But definitely no issues about drawing from holster or rapid fire. Visit a steel match sometime.

Without the brass containing and directing the expanding gases you would probably get gas out the back of the cylinder. Right next to your hands. You probably seen the picture of someones thumb that was near the front cylinder gap. Very not pretty. Also loss of gas pressure could also result in a stuck round in the barrel. Good rule of thumb, if something seems wrong it is. Is your hand worth more than 25 cents?

Ah so your opinion is that you want a confrontation to occur? You are confident you can shoot him even though he is not threatening you, It is not then a classic case of self defense you are now "The Vigilante", your life savings are gone trying to prove you acted in defense. Never mind the civil suit of "My poor boy didn't deserve to die" parents. NO chance that will be expensive. I'm am not intentionally ragging on anyone. I just tired of hearing CC is so much better when no one can provide evidence that it actually is better. I'm not saying OC is better, or CC is bad. I am pointing out, most thugs are thugs of opportunity. Agreed? They are much more likely to move on if there is any evidence that they might not get away with it. The best encounter is one that doesn't happen.

Shipley is very hardcore about "stolen valor", If he says it's true, I believe him Check out his channel on you tube.

Don Shipley from Extreme SEAL Experience.com says he was a a SEAL. From this Shipleys videos I think I'll take his word.

But I thought you were supposed to AVOID an altercation. Concealed Police work (be it firearms, or even a Radar car behind a Billboard) are meant to catch people breaking the law. See a cop standing there in uniform with his firearm, go somewhere else to commit a crime. Don't see cop (undercover suit jacket and CC) try a crime and get caught. A marked car with light blazing slows traffic to the speed limit, a unmarked car catches someone speeding. Extending this to civilian CC or OC, Say you are in a Dunkin Donuts getting a coffee, guy walks in sees OC firearm. Thinks "OOOOOPPPSSSSSS COP". Turns and leaves. No incident, all is well. Now say you are in a Dunkin Donuts getting a coffee, guy walks in doesn't see CC firearm. Thinks "lets do this", draws on the cashier. What do you do? You are now in a shootout condition. How the tactical approach helped you? I don't quite get it.

Not disagreeing with anything you wrote. And up until 2010, that was a major problem But does any of that matter now that the US Constitution's 2nd Amendment has been incorporated? Since It has been acknowledged as a personal right (to at least own a firearm wont get to the carry part), how can NJ's law stand?

I got it. I guess some people need to lighten up. In the immortal words of Sgt Hulka "Lighten up Francis"

Yep was going to suggrst this also, but I don't have a lot of confidence in HF reliability or maintainability.I glad the engine worked for you.

Tecumseh is out of business. You will get no support there. You might in the long run be better off getting a B&S 6hp and call it a day. You can get them for around 200 and parts and manuals are readily available.

Vlad, You are making a lot of assumptions here. First all OC cops are capable of defending themselves from being disarmed. Big error. Many maybe, but you will always meet some bigger stronger or more skilled. Trained? Like the standard Academy firearms training and quals? As to detering a crime you make the assumption its a planned crime. Most crime now is crime of opportunity. For the opportunistic criminal an armed person is a big Move on sign http://izismile.com/2010/08/06/such_fat_cops_25_pics.html

I was giving you two very compelling users of open carry. Police and Military. I guess they figured there had to be some reason to open carry. I see, so no else besides police can learn how keep a scumbag from taking their weapon. If everything was about training, why can't Mario Andretti drive 150 miles and hour down the parkway? Traffic you say, he used to drive with 4 feet of clearance on any side at any given moment. from guys doing 200, whats the problem. Anything a cop can be taught so can anyone else. As to why do undercover cops conceal, well sometimes it is to make themselves a victim. Rape bait, drunk rollers etc. If conceal was such a benefit why don't ALL leos carry concealed? Well maybe because they are like the signs beware of dog, or house protected by alarm system. Why even have a uniformed guard in a bank? It's a warning go someplace else, or else. Jerry M. is welcome to his opinion and I'm not saying he's wrong, but that's just what it is, his opinion. Does he shoot his demonstrations and competitions with a concealed gun or and open carry one? I wonder why? So the knife wielding guy, see's a guy with a gun, he decides to try and attack him (knife to a gun fight ring any bells). Open carrier being AWARE of his surroundings draws gun and shoots in an astound 1.7 seconds. Bad guy shot. Good result. So the knife wielding guy, see's a guy without a gun, he decides easy target (think NJ). Concealed carrier being AWARE of his surroundings tries to draw his gun and because of clearing concealing clothing takes 0.5 seconds longer and gets a knife in the gut. Bad guy sees where hand was takes gun and shoots CCW holder. Bad guy, now has gun and CCW dead. Bad result. It can be argued till everyone is blue in the face. But OC and CC both have advantages and disadvantages. Just like the caliber wars. It actually has the same answer. Do what you are best at. What maybe best for you isn't for someone else. But the most important thing is not OC or CC it's BEING AWARE OF YOUR SURROUNDINGS. Just like a .50 cal miss is worse than a .22 cal hit.

Tax the millionaires. Thats seems to be the NJ method.

Not bust on you Vlad. But: NBC? no chance of biased reporting. I'm sure that big guy they interviewed is a target x2. Wouldn't you take out the biggest guy first? Wouldn't you take out the gun carrier first? Or would you maybe move on to someone else that might not fight back? The guy who got robbed "had trouble with his holster". More like had his nose in a cellphone. OC or CC makes no difference if you walk around indifferent to your surroundings.

http://www.city-data.com/crime/crime-East-Hartford-Connecticut.html

East Hartford is a s%&thole. I lived in Bloomfield which is just north of there. It's like Cts Camden. You are fine at places like Cabelas and P&W campus but don't go exploring. Main roads and extra space at stoplights.

Exactly.

Why do police open carry? Why does the military open carry? There must be some reason. Oh because it is more comfortable, and quicker to get the weapon into action maybe? As to "advertising", what a crock of shit. Do you go after the person that might fight back and kill you or do you go for an easy target. If OC makes a person a target then why don't police CC? This includes both uniformed and others.

We don't need no stinkin gattling guns.

Retired cops willing to sit in a school all day for free? I am sure there are a few, especially ones with kids / grandkids in the school but for the most part they would want to be paid. That's where we disagree. I believe ANYONE wiling to try and stop a lunatic is a good thing and doesn't need to be a cop with and extra salary and benefits. Protection instincts will kick in. Like the gym teacher in the last school incident, the principal at Newtown, if they were armed situation would have been over after first 1 or 2 victims tops not after 20.

Do you own a fire extinguisher? Had a house fire? Do you have air bags in your car? Have they deployed? Do you own a firearm? Have you NEEDED it? All very unlikely occurrences but it's called being prepared. You need someone to make sure Suzy is cutting class? You need someone to break up a fight? Don't need an armed guard for that. Basically you are saying hire an ex-cop to do nothing except in the extremely rare occurrence of ARMED violence. This is stupid and nothing other than pension padding. It doesn't take a lot of situational awareness to spot the kid with a gun or a knife. I have yet to here of a case where a weapon was concealed and then was pulled and used. An armed teacher or two does the trick, without adding any overhead. And the odds are really good the teacher/custodian/principal has no police training. But yet somehow everyday non police trained people stop armed attacks.

What is the supposed purpose of putting an armed gaurd in the school? It's not to deal with Johnny and Joey going at it behond the gym after school. It's to deal with an armed attacker. How many LEOs have dealt with someone shooting at them? Very few. So I put forth that an armed civilian with military training is a MUCH more effective solution to the stated problem tham a retired leo that never drew his weapon outside of twice a year quals. Or even someone that had regularly gone thru sims training. You need someone to deal with Johny and Joey hire a gym teacher.