PeteF

20 guys jogging back and forth over a 120x80 yd field chasing a ball for 90 minutes. How exciting. It's as much fun as watching grass grow, without all the excitement.

I recommend you try and hit a ball coming 90 mph from 60 feet away. Soccer is the most boring waste of time and lawn on the face of the earth.

I was thinking about joining but would like a little clarification about what each of the things below entail. Each member donates 12 hours per year to help run and maintain the club. What kind of stuff does this entail? The new probationary member is required to observe at least five scheduled events in the next six months Ok this part I think I understand. and participate in two or more of those events. I am not a gun games kind of person, but would not mind helping out with scoring or stuff like that. Is that considered participation or do you actually have to be a contestant in an event? Any help appreciated.

You may remember at old laundromats (before lawsuits) they had Extractors. They would get almost all the water out of the clothes by spinning them really fast. That's what the new ones do. If you crank it up to max extract the thing can actually rip clothes.

You also get that "Took care of it myself" satisfaction. The agitatorless HE top loaders rotate the drum clockwise the counterclockwise giving an agitation effect.

And that's the problem. This ridiculous mindset that since you can see a gun there is something illegal going on. So maybe if the people calling 911 for no valid reason should be issued a summons for using 911 incorrectly.

Ok try reading the back of your ticket before you enter a baseball game or go skiing sometime. Maybe you will become enlightened. http://www.google.co...E04U7HI_0jkZzBA She was in the stands next to field where there is the assumption that you can be hit by thrown/hit ball.

Still haven't watched the video? The guy tells the cop the case right in the video. So no OC is NOT a reason to stop someone. So yes a cop can come say hello, but the person can also ignore him and keep walking. Remember that whole innocent until proven guilty thing? This is not just in Maine. Philadelphia has the exact same rule.

I'm not sure if this is the same guy, but there have also been videos posted giving the LEO kudos when the cop does the right thing as in your scenario.

2. Like I said if you don't want to OC, don't. If someone else does that's fine too. (again where legal) 3. The presence of the firearm makes people more equal. The small woman now becomes ABLE to stop the large attacker. Therefore attacker may try to attack/rob an easier target. 4. Nothing the guy in the video was doing was a crime and according to the case law they had NO reason to stop him. If you're going to go down the "But he has a gun and may commit a crime" thought police argument. I just give up. 5. A civilian with a gun is not a cop. They have the right to protect themselves and others, not to chase down a BG, pull over a drunk driver etc. Once threat to you is done anything else you do will rightfully get you in deep doo doo. I'm not sure where you live but in my town at any given time there are ~8 cop cars patrolling. Very unlikely one will just happen to be right where a crime is happening. And if they are a mile away there is no chance they can get there in under 2 minutes (residential winding streets). OC doesn't deter crime in general it deters crime against a given person. And thats what personal protection is about. I protect myself. Cops are supposed to protect the general well being. As to your last Oh no we wouldn't want to offend the attacker he might get mad. We should all just stand there and let what ever will happen happen. Please.

1. Actually many here have permits to carry in states that allow it so it's not a "strawman" argument. 2. Open carry has a place. Where ever it is legal and the person doing it feels that the best way for him to carry. 3. BS. Why is it that a large man is less likely to be attacked than a small women. Its the perceived response. A large man might fight back so move to a easier target say a small woman. Yeah OC can make you a target but it also can make you less of a target. 4. Shall I call the police and report that I want them to check you out because you are cutting your lawn? Proper operator response is "Open carrying is a legal option. Is the person threatening you or anyone else with the gun? No? Have a nice day." 5. Actually it takes away a law abiding citizens right to protect themselves. If the guy with the pocket 25 is being attacked, He should be able to IMMEDIATELY respond. Good guy attacked, pulls .25 and either scares BG away (best case) or shoots BG (worst case). Uninjured good guy calls 911 and waits to talk to police. Call a cop Time line: Get out phone, correctly dial 911, explain situation to dispatcher, dispatcher call to squad car. car immediately responds. Officer tries to figure out whats going on and who is who. So in a best case scenario cops arrive 3-5 minutes after the call, and clean up the mess. More than likely Good guy being robbed, beaten, or killed. I don't see this as a win for law abiding citizens. As to OC versus CC. They both have their advantages and disadvantages. That's why each person who decides to carry, needs to make up his OWN mind not let someone tell him whats best for himself.

You could always become a SPCA officer.

Actually the cop started it. The guy did not call the cop over. Yeah the guy did it to get a reaction. He had just as much reason to detain the cop as the cop did to detain him. Neither was breaking a law in open carrying. He was stopped by an obviously untrained individual. Did you notice that once the supervisor showed up the "incident" was over in 30 seconds?

Because she was in a place of Assumed risk. If you are skiing and someone runs into you you can't sue it's part of the assumed risk. If you go to a baseball game and get hit by a ball again it's part of the risk of going to the game. Put it this way if you park your car on the train tracks its your fault when it gets demolished by the train.

How about a post decision court, with a jury to watch a video of the case, that decides if the case was frivolous, with losing LAWYER paying ALL costs if deemed frivolous. Guarantee BS lawsuits would be gone in a month.

Absolutely. Even if you do nothing more than sit on the couch and watch a movie with your spouse. After the first month you WILL need a breather.

And guess who gets stuck with the bill? Town needs a lawyer to respond. Need to get a judge and all the support staff. Guess who pays for all that. Need to have 50 people waste their time waiting to be a jury. Witnesses need to take time off from work to testify. etc. There needs to be a method of recouping loses from scum lawyers who file these frivolous lawsuits.

Yeah she should be going after treatment costs. FROM THE SCUMBAG WITH THE KNIFE'S ESTATE!! Going after the town for having a cop likely save her life is just plain stupidity.

Indoor, 50 yds rifle allowed not sure up to what caliber. They have demoed the old building that was there but no new walls are up yet. So don't hold your breath, it will be at least a few more months. Seeing all the grief that Lucianos is going through try to open their store, I'd be surprised if things go smoothly opening the range.

You definetly want to make sure they are NJ legal weapons before taking possesion and before posting any pictures. I'm not sure what you should do if any are NJ illegal. Maybe someone elae could chime in. I'd hate for you to get jammed up for taking posession of an M1 carbine.

Thats kind of nasty. So after you fire a round you get to breath in "Bits of James" Yuck PS I thought you were going to say "Vote Democratic"

I really like this part. What license would this be exactly?

And here we go again. WTF? http://mobile.nj.com/advnj/pm_29221/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=pZESm7GN

Be careful if you are using a roll crimp into a cannelure. I was using mixed headstamp .38spc. Set the press up for proper oal and good crimp. Ran next round and it crushed the case. The mixed headstamp brass varied by .06 inches in case length causing the crimp to miss the cannelure, thereby giving way too much of a crappy crimp.

The data makes sense. The shorter the OAL, less powder needed to make same pressure. I'm running 5.5 grains W231 with no issues. OAL 1.275