PeteF

Why is that? Will a gun at the range kill you any less than a cops gun? Having a gun pointed at you is having a gun pointed at you! Why does the cop need to have the upper hand? Why does the cop need to draw a gun when there is no threat to him or anyone else? A gun in a holster is not a threat. By PAs own laws, a LEO does not have the authority to stop an open carrier, who has done nothing else to arouse suspicion. If the gun was in the guys HAND that is a completely different story. I have no problem with cops. (well except if they are in my rearview mirror) I am not bashing cops in general, just cops who blow things all out of proportion to "assert their authority". Look at it this way, if you are pulled over for a broken taillight would you think it is reasonable to have a gun pointed at you? I don't think so. When a cop pulls his gun it needs to be in response to an actual threat.

I agree that anyone who decides to carry, or even to own a gun should have some kind of training and I think anyone who doesn't is a moron. My problem is that YOU should decide to take the training, not have it mandated by the gov. Once they mandate something, they regulate it and all of a sudden a right becomes a privilege granted by the government.

But when you make a mistake you don't point a loaded weapon at someone, and threaten to kill them. How often do we here about people at ranges or stores in NJ getting swept by the muzzle of a firearm. The first cop should be fired and prosecuted for illegally threatening the life of the person.

This is exactly what got the officer in NY shot by the transit cop. Some one saw an plain clothes cop with a rifle, yelled "gun" and that's when the undercover officer got shot. It's an "area" mentality thing. I was watching "Alaska state troopers" and they handle interactions with people with firearms completely differently. Just because you see a gun doesn't mean anything wrong is occurring. Around here a gun seen in public is a major offense even if nothing is occurring.

Big difference between walking down the road with an obviously holstered gun and waving one around. Situation 1. Cop sees man waving gun around, cop pulls his own gun and deals with situation. Situation 2. Cop sees man walking down the street, breaking no laws, with holstered gun, should do nothing, or should be played out exactly as you said "Uhh excuse me kind sir, what brings you out on this beautiful day carrying a firearm at your side?"

Agreed 100%, I remember another another trouble maker by the name of Rosa Parks. I guess she was an idiot also.

They gave a gift certificate to a licensed gun shop. Rat Shack didn't give any guns, so there should be no problems.

Yeah I forgot about that one

Not even close, http://njgunforums.com/forum/index.php?/topic/13778-ray-rays-zombie-apocolypse-thread/page__view__findpost__p__240840__hl__girls__fromsearch__1

Welcome to the Looney Bin. Also a neighbor, from Cranford.

What he said. Anyway what really is the difference between "range" brass and once fired brass anyway? The way I figure it there are two type of shooters reloaders - who will pick up their brass and occasionally discard a "shot out" casing others - who buy factory ammo shoot it and leave the brass So when I scrounge range brass the odds are really high that it has only been shot once.

Is your dad open to adopting?

Its only a matter of time before ammo components take the same hit.

Get there early, they tend to get crowded on weekends. Other than that, follow standard safety rules and you should have a good time.

I was at Shore shot yesterday, it was pretty crowded and Tiny was the RO. There were several new shooter's (no one acting like a douche just inexperienced). Tiny did a great job coaching, helping when there was a problem such as a FTE, and just giving hints on how to shoot better. I have not taken any lessons at Shore Shot, but the RO's there are usually top notch.

There was a used one in the case down at Shore Shot yesterday, I think it was in the $700 range.

I was watching Storage Wars, Similiar show same level of intelligence. One of the guys found a box that had "M16 clips, look at the the size of those bullets, and this clip is loaded with hollow points, scary stuff" Was 30 round AR15 mags, ~10 30-06 rounds and a hangun mag loaded with HPs.

Ah decisions decision decisions. With a gun that has so much family significance, do you want to take the chance of something happening to it at the range? On the other hand what good is a tool that just sits in a safe? Like I said, decisions decision decisions

Hollow points are illegal in NJ, EXCEPT for when exemptions apply, such as travelling to a range, in your house etc.

Actually according to the law, you do. The law is dumb as s*@t, but that's what it says. You do not have to leave your house to avoid conflict, but if you can be safe by locking yourself in a room, thats what NJ says you have to do. 2C:3-4. Use of force in self-protection. B The actor knows that he can avoid the necessity of using such force with complete safety by retreating or by surrendering possession of a thing to a person asserting a claim of right thereto or by complying with a demand that he abstain from any action which he has no duty to take, except that: (i) The actor is not obliged to retreat from his dwelling, unless he was the initial aggressor; and I agree, it would be very hard to prove (again in NJ presumed guilty until proven innocent) that you could have avoided using deadly force when you went looking for the BG.

This being NJ and all, with a duty to retreat, if you find someone while doing a room search in option 1 and shoot them you are up the proverbial creek. Option 2 is the only way you are going to have a reasonable chance of not changing your address to the grey bar hotel.

I'm glad to see you actually got correct information from the PD. There have been many instances where the PD gave out bad info, such as you can only apply for 1 PP per month.

Looks like a nice solid top, and should hold that press in place real good. What is that light blue stuff on top? I use my bench when I am cleaning my guns and the wood top tends to soak up anything that drops on it. I looking to put something on top of mine that's easy to clean.

Wow, if they could dismantle the street gang "swiftly and completely", why the hell don't they do it now instead of waiting for someone to be killed? What a bunch of morons.

What he said, 4" for HD, 6" for range fun.