NJ609

I agree about the value! Apparently the Winchester 12 needs some work, my Dad isn't sure about the other two. I guess I could break them down and verify that everything is functioning to the best of my abilities.

Always good to be reminded of the "duh, simple" things. They are often the most important. Thanks!

Of course once someone is faced with actual danger their tune changes.... QUICK, WHO HAS A GUN?!?!?

I agree, how can anyone think the shooter is a victim is beyond me. It's disgusting.

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Congrats! :mrgreen:

Items are not always named straight up in the will like that though...

I thought you were talking about this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lock_N%27_Load_with_R._Lee_Ermey That "Lock N Load" is a great show with lots of historical info, plus RLE is awesome!

I'm very new to .380 and have no idea what the historic prices were. Anyone have any idea "what we should be paying"? For the 250 round UMC box at Dicks it ends up being equal to $18 per box of 50. I don't know if I've found lower prices than that since I've owned my LCP.

The .380 for 90 bucks was cheaper than anything I could find online, that is if I can even find anything! And since I'm planning on going to the range on Sunday I had to spring for it. $90 for 250 rounds isn't *that* terrible for .380 these days, sadly. And a new 12 gauge made its way into my trunk as well. But that's for a different thread.

Ok let's all promise to post if we find any then. But it doesn't look good. Stupid NJ....

In my family there are some older firearms that probably haven't been shot in 30 years or more. I really don't think since I've been alive anyway. All high quality stuff, but I don't want to just load 'em up and fire to see if they still work and cycle, etc... Winchester Model 12 ('51) Remington 11-48 (60's???) Remington 29 ('30 to '33?) Anyone have any advice on what to do? Should I do a total breakdown and cleaning? Man I'd have to find the instructions, these puppies are OLD! (Well, to me they are anyway!) I'm not even sure if the 29 shoots 2.75 inch shells. Nor do we have any clue as to the value of these shotguns.... Thanks for advice or info!

Sure you can. Philly tried to fight CCW's that were of or honored by PA and the stage AG smacked the **** out of them. But.... There are so many schools that it's pretty likely they could arrest you in a large chunk of the city for not having the PA CCW. I'm so pissed about that! We can NOT get a PA CCW because our crappy state is falsely "Shall Issue". Some info: http://www.attorneygeneral.gov/crime.aspx?id=184

Does anyone know if they make a 15 round magazine for the G17? The only thing I can find is Commie-NJ illegal 17 round mags and 10 round mags that I own. What a waste.... Any help would be appreciated.

Doesn't matter who did this, it's a tragedy. People defending our nation killed like this, what a waste of patriots lives. My thoughts go out to their families.

Gotcha, thanks for the information. I am on my way out of here, within the next 6 months to one year and I will not have to worry about a thing. Congrats man, live the dream. Enjoy the real America. I have a sick feeling that I'm stuck here forever so I gotta keep fighting.

Out of curiosity how so? I have to read up on a few things your input will help along with anyone else. Federal law creates "Gun Free School Zones". What this means to us is that in FL, we can carry where we please as long as there is no state law against it (such as a court building, etc) because our permit is issued from FL. But in PA, although they have reciprocity with FL, you cannot carry in one of those GFSZ's. The Federal Law is worded so that you need to have a permit from the state you are in to be able to carry in those zones. You still can't necessarily carry IN the building even with an in state permit, but these zones spread 1000 feet beyond the property. Effectively nullling the use of a CCW you have via reciprocity. This is bad for me because I go to Philly and wanted to carry there for protection due to the high crime, but since there are so many schools I'm really questioning the use of an out of state CCW. And as an NJ resident I cannot possibly get a PA non resident card (which would solve that issue) because NJ won't offer me a CCW and PA requires a home state permit in order to give you a non resident one. Quite the cluster BEEP isn't it? It all comes back to needing to get the heck out of this commie state or praying that by some miracle the laws change based on the upcoming SCOTUS 2A decision. More info in this thread where I waded my way through the laws of our land to figure this out: http://www.njgunforums.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=3748

Yeah, FL has sped up a lot. I don't think it took more than a month for my CCW. Sadly I keep learning new rules that lead me to believe it's not nearly as useful as I thought it was, but still, better than nothing!

I don't know. It's just one of the caveats of out of state CCW's and it's a Federal Law as far as I can tell. REALLY SUCKS. Hoping it's addressed if the Fed ever does allow total reciprocity.

Yup. Stinks I can't get one as I spend time in Philly. There are schools all over, it seems like a defacto ban on out of state CCW for some small locations.

I'm sorry, I need to edit the original post to clarify. FL out of state CCW is 100% valid, this is not about that. This is about applying for a PA non resident CCW, because without that you can NOT be within 1000 feet of a school. It's in the laws if you go read them. I was going to apply for a PA non res using my FL non res, and it is a NO GO.

EDIT: This is not about using a FL Non Resident CCW in PA. That is 100% legal. This is about getting a PA Non Res Permit. In order to do that, you need a permit from your home state. This is verification that they will not accept non resident permits even in states like NJ at are "no issue" but claim to be "shall issue". So I got it straight from a Sheriff in PA that you can not use a FL out of state CCW as proof of carry in a state, it HAS to be from your home state. He was sorry to say that as he knew I was in the communist state of NJ and have no chance of getting an in state carry permit. The reason I was interested is because with my FL permit I cannot carry within 1000 feet of a school, this becomes difficult in Philly! I've seen the story argued both ways (can use FL, can't use FL) on other forums and since I just got the email back from Sheriff Dennis Nau from Centre County PA I figured I'd share:

If anyone wants to meet up at BH around noon let me know, my cousin and I are trying to head up there. I am bringing my LCP, G17 with new TruGlo TFO sights to test and of course my Buckmark plinker. If you are interested in an XD40 and want to try one out let me know and I can bring that too. Although I will grumble at you as I have to clean yet another pistol once I get home!

Sadly I agree with the need to be private about what we do. Although once inside the comradeship is fantastic, those outside of the community often look at us as CRIMINALS. Such a shame, but at the same time I appreciate BH putting thought into the privacy of its clients.

They had a lot in EB but the prices were terrible so I walked out empty handed. I really want to pick up some more .380 but the bulk packs are way overpriced.