mcbethr

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You are basically looking at two possibilities: the Mossberg 500 or the Remington 870. Both are fine shotguns. The only real difference is that the Mossberg is ambidexterous and the Remington 870 has a sort of duckbill feed ramp that keeps crap out of the feeding port. Some people prefer one over the other. I prefer the Mossberg, but that's just because it's what I had in the Army. Other than that, you can't go wrong with either one.

I think the 9mm FNX holds 17. You would have to get them pinned. There are advantages to a Beretta. #1. It holds 15 Jersey Legal rounds. #2. The magazines are cheap and you can always find parts. #3. It's a sweet shooter. #4. You will become taller, more handsome and a better dresser and the most interesting man at parties. Beretta is the only gun company I know of that also makes leather bound hip flasks - you aren't just buying a gun, you are buying a lifestyle.

I heard you like statistics so I put some statistics in your statistics.

There is an old I don't know. It reminds me of an old joke: A young Jewish boy starts attending public school in a small town. The teacher asks the class, "Who was the greatest man that ever lived?" The new Jewish boy raises his hand and says, "I think Jesus Christ was the greatest man that ever lived." The teacher is so astonished that she gives him a lollipop Later, during recess, another Jewish boy approaches him as he is licking his lollipop. He says, "Why did you say, 'Jesus Christ'?" The boy stops licking his lollipop and replies, "I know it's Moses, and YOU know it's Moses, but business is business."

You cannot go wrong with a Glock 19, Sig P226 or Beretta 92FS. All of them have .22LR conversion kits and all of them are of NJ legal capacity. Note that the way a gun feels in your hand may be entirely different than the way it actually shoots. Shoot it first. All that being said, if you love it, buy it. Life is too short to own guns that you only like. You should have guns that you *love*.

I like the Beretta IDPA commercial where the Beretta owner decides to blow off the match to go back to the hotel with two beautiful women... oh, wait, I'm sorry. That wasn't a commercial. That's real life...

Oh, this should be good... Look, all things considered, when you take a BB Gun into NJ it is not legally different than bringing an elephant gun into NJ. Think of it that way. Would you go buy an elephant gun at Cabellas and bring it to NJ? If the answer is "no" you have your answer about the BB Gun. Now that being said, go to NJ2AS.org watch the video below and help us fight to overturn some of these crazy laws.

Was that where I was all morning? No wonder I couldn't find any boats...

I didn't shoot much back back when I got my FID. Maybe once every 6 months just to stay in practice. So cost of ammo was never much of a concern. In 2009 I worked with a Marine who was Mr. Glock Fanboy. We fed off of each other. I went from 1 gun to 10 in about 2 years and I started shooting every week. I'm back to a couple of .22 rifles and a few pistols. But man... It's funny how fast that happened. Since that horrible day at Sandy Hook I've been more interested in Gun Rights than Guns.

Enjoy the new Mossberg, Matt. Pleasure to deal with.

Enjoy the ammo, Gerry.

+1 for this. My son has a Crickett and he loves it. It's actually an excellent rifle. The problem I have with Henry .22 Lever action rifles is that you have to put your hand close to the barrel to reload them and you have a hard time shooting a lever-action in the prone. I would pick a Bolt-action Savage .22 for the older kid. It's magazine fed and the kid has to take his time with the bolt-action. Older kids can shoot the Cricket pretty well - and you can get an adult stock for them.

I think .40 Cal Blazer was about $10.00 a box back in 2004. But I didn't take up shooting as a hobby until 2009 so by memories may be fuzzy.

I remember this concept back before I got "into" guns. This actually sounds like one of those ideas that could work for law enforcement. Give police officer two rings and the bad guy will never be able to use a cop's gun against him. The only problem is that I wouldn't want to be that 1 in 1,000,000 police officer who just got shot in the hand like Galentine in Black Hawk Down and now I'm going to die because my gun is rendered useless and my ring is somewhere on the ground in the dark.

What I don't understand is how a 16 year old kid who was twice convicted managed to pass the background check for and get a Firearms ID Card and Pistol Purchase Permit - oh wait... nevermind.

If it saves the life of just one child...

IMHO if you have a gun, you have a duty to make all reasonable efforts to secure that gun from unauthorized access. Also, my guns are expensive! I don't want anybody stealing one of my beautiful Berettas. All safes are basically time deterrents. The burglar has to weigh the amount of time he's going to spend working on that safe along with the possible reward. Some burglars want nothing to do with guns because of the additional charges. They just want your prescription painkillers and they will leave. But not all burglars are the same. I prefer keyed-safes. Biometrics can fail. You can forget safe combinations when you are frightened. But if you practice with a key, you can be as smooth as changing a magazine. I use a nanovault with a cable lock around the bed. The key for my safe is inside the backup battery compartment of my clock radio. I keep my car keys inside my little nanovault. This forces me to get out of bed every morning and the first thing I do is unlock my nanovault. Doing this twice a day has made me very proficient. I will. Not disparage you if you have no kids and keep your gun in a drawer, but for me, keeping it locked but accessible is the right thing to do.

Get the 12 Gauge then get a 20 gauge adapter from Short Lane ( www.gunadapters.com ) and shoot both. Yes, the gun adapter will work in a pump.

Well, they are technically correct. An unloaded gun will never kill anyone. Although there is a difference between an unloaded gun and "I swear it was unloaded!!!" The former has killed nobody. The latter has killed plenty. I've always said that if you have a gun and a kid, you need a safe. End of story. I have no problem with people who prefer to keep their guns locked up and unloaded. My problem is when the government tells people to keep their guns locked up and unloaded. And they did point out that you should talk to your kid and tell them to never, ever touch a firearm.

Is that a 20" barrel?

Hey! Where did you find the .22 Bulk Back?

NJ is... different. But different in the sense of going from the Aunt's who always pinches your cheeks to the Aunt who calls you another kid's name. In California, you can walk up to the register and one NICS check later, walk out with any rifle or shotgun on the shelves. Present proof of training and you can do the same after 10 days with any pistol. But in NJ, yes you get the 15 round magazines and no bullet button, but the whole process of getting the gun in the first place is convoluted. Welcome to the forums and seriously consider joining the New Jersey Second Amendment Society. We need your help to keep New Jersey California Free.

You know... that's a good point.