mcbethr

I went and asked my tax compliance specialist. The answer is no.

This was my first gun. It's a fine firearm. Enjoy it and be safe.

I hate to break it to you, but the time to buy an AR or AK for "cheap" was December 14th, 2012. The odds of you finding a reasonably priced AR or AK is very low and probably will be for the foreseeable future. The odds of you finding .223 ammo is low as well. I would suggest a .22 Rimfire like a Ruger 10/22 but even .22 ammo is hard to find these days. The bulk packs have just vanished. You can still use a .22 to defend your home. I wouldn't want to face off against any gun and a face full of .22LR will let anybody know that they really don't need to be in your home. I'm going to suggest the same thing I suggested to Gan_G when he asked a similar question. Take a look at a Mossberg 464 in .30-30 Winchester. http://www.mossberg.com/product/rifles-lever-action-centerfire-464-lever-action/41010 If you want something Tactical-Cool. look at the 464SPX http://www.mossberg.com/product/rifles-lever-action-centerfire-464-spx/41026 Here's why. The .30-30 Winchester is a fine cartridge. You can still find .30-30 Win on the shelves and it's not that expensive. The .30-30 has been around for over 100 years and has been protecting homes ever since it was called "homestead" defense. If you don't want the .30-30, look at a Henry or Marlin rifle in .38/.357 magnum. You can still find .38 caliber ammo on the shelves for about $18 for a box of 50. As an added bonus, you can use that same ammo in a revolver should you ever decide to get one. Welcome to the forums and the sport. You'll find us a lot different than many other gun forums. We are a big family here and we look out for each other. If you want to try out a certain type of rifle, just ask and someone on the forum will probably have it and welcome you to their range to sign you in as a member. Please take a look at the video below and seriously consider joining the New Jersey Second Amendment Society. Have fun and be safe.

No but I'll be there working the NJ2AS booth on Sunday. Yes, as long as you have it transferred to a NJ FFL. No face-to face transactions. Buy as much ammo as you want. No restrictions.

My son's friend requested a sleepover this past Friday. The father asked me if there was a gun in the house. My response: "Oh, God no! I don't have a gun in the house. I have like, 10 guns in the house." I managed to convince him to come shooing with us at Ft. Dix on Saturday and now he's considering a permit...

Eh... disregard women. You will be better off. Aiming to living in a remote cabin with just your guns and your dog like Mark Walberg in The Shooter. You will be happier for it.

I think you have your answer. All the best. Have fun and be safe.

Ah... I see what you did there...

Oh it does. I'm not saying that I agree with it, but it's an option that they could use to "discourage" weapons with evil features without actually banning them. I think that we have a bit of a skewed idea toward shooting because pretty much everybody on this board is a frequent shooter. "The poor" in NJ are different than "the poor" in other states. I'd venture to say that if someone "poor" in NJ wants a gun, they are buying one revolver and a box of shells to keep at their Bodega or one Maverick 88 shotgun to keep in their closet and that's it. "The poor" don't buy AR-15's - at least not in NJ. Calling a tax on "evil features" as tax on the poor is almost like saying that a luxury tax on yachts is prejudicial to the poor since it makes yachts less affordable. If a poor person suddenly had $1500 to spend I doubt they would buy an AR-15. They would put it toward bills or clothes for their kids or maybe a well-deserved vacation. IMHO there are 2 types people in NJ who buy AR-type rifles. #1. The upper middle class enthusiast. #2. Veterans who want something that is familiar to them. Is a $300 total tax on evil features going to hurt me? No. If I can afford $1,200 for an AR-15, I can afford $1,500 The problem comes when we apply flat taxes or insurance or special requirements against initial purchase - sort of like the way NYC requires fees and permits that are often in excess of the cost of the gun. *That* is denying poor people their rights without a doubt.

No. Because if it saves the life of just one child...

The 30-30 was being used for home defense back when it could be considered * homestead defense.* It's a fine cartridge that you always see on the shelves because it's been eclipsed in popularity by the .223.

See, this is where it gets tougher. The only modular rifle platform that can do centerfire or rimfire would be an AR. You can't find any these days, and you certainly can't find any for a price point of $600. I still think you should stick with the lever-action 30-30 or .38/.357 with the special preference going to the .38/.357 since that can be used in a pistol should you choose to get one someday. I can give you one more option that actually turns your gun into a rifle and allows you to shoot whatever you want. Consider a 12 gauge Stoger Coach Gun for about $400. Then go to Short Lane Arms www.gunadapters.com and purchase the 9mm or .22LR long barrel 8" adapters. These special adapters allow you to shoot 9mm, 45LC and .22 through your double-barreled shotgun. I have one in .22 LR and it's very handy. As a bonus - you get a shotgun out of the deal. Now you only need one gun and can shoot a variety of ammunition.

Now I have to think about this.

Or... just buy a revolver or a 1911...

That I could see - a deal where they grudgingly admit that "assault weapons" are in common use. So the state sort of turns them into a sort of New York State Class III weapon where the buyers need a tax stamp and so on for X features. Maybe a tax for each "evil" feature. Want a folding stock? Fine. $100 stamp. Want a bayonet lug? Fine. $100 stamp. Want a 30 round magazine? Fine. $100 stamp per magazine. That would have the effect of allowing these weapons, but reducing their availability. And making "post-ban" weapons more popular since you don't have to pay for the stamp. A sort of AWB without being an AWB.

Just wondering though, why no rimfire? It's cheap, you can pack a lot of it for a range session and it can also be used in the home defense role, although it is less than ideal.

First off, are you over 21? I would suggest a lever-action rifle in .30-30 if you are under 21 and a lever action carbine in .38/357 if you are over 21. The reason is simple. First off, both are centerfire. 30-30 is still common enough to be found on gun store shelves. It's a reasonably fun round to shoot and reasonably priced. You can still use a 30-30 for home defense. Plenty of woodsman have done it for years where a 30-30 was the only rifle in the house. If you are over 21 you can buy handgun ammo without trying to explain yourself to the clerk. Go with a .38/.357 lever-action rifle. The ammo is reasonably priced and one day if you ever buy a handgun you have commonality of ammunition if you ever buy a revolver. Have fun. Be safe. And welcome to the forums. We're a big family here and we always like to give new members a warm welcome. Oh, and watch the video below and seriously consider joining NJ2AS.org to help keep your Second Amendment rights.

My goodness... could you picture open carry in New Jersey?

$18 for a box of .38 Special. $15.00 for a box of 9mm. Knock 20% off of that for a sale price.

I've met one or two female Regans. It's a nice name. I think "unique" names are coming back. I've seen Mason, McKayla, Olive, and Rhia, Cole and Hunter on the school rosters.

Yes, that was me. They say the camera adds 10 pounds. I think I was wearing a few extra cameras that day. I really need to lose some weight.

ug.. he... he. damn keyboard. Well HE is a standup guy.

Welcome to the forums... we're like a family here. You are right near where I live. Where do you shoot? I normally go to Ft. Dix on the weekends and Firing Line in Philly every Tuesday. Please take a look at the video below and seriously consider joining NJ2AS we need the members.

+1 What lunker said. Although you could probably pick up a new Taurus or Charter for around that price.

This. I don't consider myself a stockpiler at all. I just buy it in bulk when I see it on sale so I always have some if I want to go shooting.