mcbethr

I did the math on this once. If NJ has 1.2 million gun owners, we are larger than all of the armies of Europe combined.

You can't go wrong with the Beretta 92FS or the PX4. Big guns for big guys. As a bonus if you get a 92FS, you can get a conversion kit and shoot .22LR for pennies. I like the Sig P226 as well and you can get a conversion kit for that was well.

So what's the best anti Jersey Devil Gun, 9mm or 45ACP. I'm kind of thinking .454 Anyway, welcome to the forums and please consider joining NJ2AS.org and coming to the rally on February 8th.

Welcome to the Forum. I'm not a big fan of Glocks, but they are fine first guns. Consider purchasing the Advantage Arms conversion kit and you'll be able to convert you 9mm Glock into .22LR pistol and shoot for much less money.

Welcome back to the family. Would you consider joining NJ2AS.org and going to the Rally on the 8th of February? I'm bringing my son. And don't forget to check out our original video below: Spread the word, please.

Actually, I sent a paper letter to Senator Sweeney. It couldn't hurt. He's been the one standing in the way of new restrictions becasue he doesn't let any anti-2A legislation come to the floor.

Ok. I am not a lawyer, but here is the law: So you are perfectly allowed to keep and shoot hollow point ammunition on your property. But that being said... a couple years back there was a study where a group held four mock trials, and darn it, I can't find the link. But the basic premise was that the homeowner was accused of shooting in self defense, but made one critical mistake, such as continuing to shoot after the robber left the house or some fatal mistake. In each "trial" the fake homeowner used a different gun. In the first he used a black semi-auto pistol. In the second he used a snub-nosed revolver. In the third, he used an AR-15. In the forth he used a Ruger Mini-14. Although the mock jury convicted the homeowner every time, he got a lesser sentence when he used the snub-nosed revolver or Ruger Mini-14. Why do you think that is? Perception. All you need is a prosecutor who wants to make a name for himself and they will find something to make your life miserable, even if it was a "good" shoot. Now that being said, do you want cartridges called: "Flesh Ripping Black Talon" or "Guardian Home Defense" rounds? Think I'm wrong? Read this link about a man who was protecting his bodega from robbery: http://www.northjers..._legal_gun.html His fatal mistake was that he ran out of his bodega and shot at the men who were fleeing. I don't know if the prosecutors have charged the bodega owner yet. I can't find any further information on the case. But the fact that they are even having the conversation about charging him should give you pause when considering the type of ammunition to select. A couple months back, someone on this forum thought about using Hornady Zombie Max ammunition as self-defense ammo in this thread here: http://njgunforums.c...__fromsearch__1 I replied: Just imagine being on trial and the prosecutor saying: "He was living in a gun fantasy world, Your Honor. He loaded his gun with anti-zombie ammunition." But to answer your direct question, there is a letter from the state police (again posted somewhere on here and in circulation) that defines certain types of ammunition as "not considered hollow point." So all that being said, just do yourself a favor and get Federal EFMJ or Hornandy Critical Defense. The stuff feeds better anyway. Hornandy and Remington make HD buckshot rounds although I use just standard 00 Remington Buckshot. I don't think there is much of a difference between standard buckshot and home defense buckshot, but it couldn't hurt to pay the extra 2 dollars for something that says "home defense" on it. My shotguns aren't used in the HD role. But if they were a primary HD weapon, I would get the Hornady or Remington Home Defense rounds just because they say "home defense" on the box.

You could get a new Kel Tec PF9. They are cheap and make fantastic carry guns.

PX4 in .45 This gun holds 10 rounds, the rotating barrel helps bleed off recoil.

No, that's cool, brother. I mean, there is a reason why I'm not a member of their range and why I buy most of my stuff in private transactions.

It depends. Hollow point bullets are perfectly legal in your home, place of business, at the range & gun store or transporting to or from one of those locations. All the same, as the Arabs say: Trust in Allah but tie your camel. Do you really want to be that guy who gets slapped with an additional charge because some prosecutor thinks that hollow point ammo is illegal? The charges may be dropped, but you will be dealing with enough if God forbid you ever actually have to shoot someone. Don't add confusion about hollow points to the list. Hornady Critical Defense, Corbon Pow-r-ball and Federal Expanding Full Metal Jacket (EFMJ) are not considered hollow points. I use Hornandy Critical Defense and just bought a box of Federal EFMJ. As an added bonus, the little polymer ball or round-nosed bullet helps feed the cartridges better.

I've always liked Hagues. Dan and the guys have always treated me well. I think I've bought 2 guns from there and taken a number of friends there to buy their first guns. They do tend to be more expensive than other shops, but I actually think that's a benefit for most new shooters. They take the time to explain how the guns work, where to lube it and how do disassemble them. The range is bright and clean and they come out often to offer shooting advice. You also get a 30 day range membership with each gun. If you have a problem, you can come back and they answer your questions or fix the problem. In other words, they've never done me any wrong and I won't bash companies that haven't done me wrong. AR-15's are not my thing and probably never will be. Heck, as much as I love Berettas, I'm considering selling my CX4 because I find myself shooting my 10/22 .22 much more than any other platform. I guess I just like metal and wood. At the same time, the store will sell AR's for whatever the market will bear right now. If you want to get technical, AR's are pretty much fungable right now. People user to argue over whether you wanted a Stag Arms, Bushmaster or Colt. Now, they are just happy to get an AR regardless of brand. Hagues, and pretty much every other gun store, also have to worry about inventory a few months down the road. How would you act if you have to make payroll and keep the lights on, but the price of your wares increases every week? So like I said, I've never had a problem with them. I'm in the market for a new Kimber. I will probably end up going with Paul, or I may go back to Hagues, although Paul probably has the better price.

Gecko 45... Is that you? :-)

Welcome to the forums. You can get a Remington 870 barrel from Midway USA for about $150 http://www.midwayusa...ight-parkerized I would never discourage anybody from buying another shotgun, but if you want something cheap for HD, look into a Maverick 88 - you can get them for about $200. Personally, I would go with the second barrel, it's cheaper. Spend the rest of your money on ammo. Oh, and get a sling. No weapon is complete without a sling.

CLP is great if you are in the Army and need cleaner, lubricant and protector in one - it means two less bottles to carry. But if you have the luxury of being at home there is plenty of other stuff that will do the job better. Oh, and I use Gun Butter.

I was just thinking of this. If you look online you tend to see plenty of 44 Special and Magnum available. Dicks has .40 Cal available behind the counter. I've consolidated to 9mm, 45 ACP, 12 Gauge and .22 and I think that pretty much covers the spectrum of shooting for now.

Nobody puts Baby in the corner.

The Dicks in Mt. Laurel had 9mm ammo on Friday, but you had to ask for it as they keep it "in the back." My guess is that there is no point in even stocking the front shelves anymore. They still had plenty of .22's shotguns and lever-action rifles.

Everything you need to know about shotguns you can learn from Herger the Joyous: Grow stronger. If your shoulder feels sore from the buttstock, just imagine what it feels like on the other end! The Stoger 2000 is recoil-driven. It needs the recoil to cycle. Pads don't actually lessen the recoil, just spread it out over a wider area, although a limbsaver pad could help the felt recoil. You could also make the gun heavier. The stock has to be held onto the receiver in some fashion. My guess is that there should be a screw underneath the recoil pad. If the stock is hollow, you may be able to fill it with some lead shot held in place by small pieces of packing peanuts. Welcome to the world of shotgunning. It's a fantastic platform.

Funny, the best scenes of the book were on Iceland. I wondered what the book would have been like if it just followed that small team. Even today I find myself taking that book off the shelf and rereading it - although only the scenes on Iceland. Although I will admit that the Chapter "Dance of the Vampires" was fantastic.

Every time I hear someone say that I think of what my relatives in Poland were saying 70 years ago:

You would be surprised how fast 2 guns turns into 10 if you catch the bug and it turns into a hobby. I had 1 gun for years then I got a new job and sat in a cube next to a Marine who loved Glocks. We fed off each other and he turned a home defense tool into a hobby for me. It didn't take long for the safe collection to grow, although my stuff is mainly for sporting and fun. It isn't absolutely necessary that your wife get her own FID. It's just useful so that she can use it to buy ammo if she is at Dicks and notices it on sale. Helpful, but not necessary. Tactical Monkey has a list of range locations and info. There was a google map of this, but I've can't find it. Maybe somebody else can? http://njgunforums.com/forum/index.php?/topic/21702-new-jersey-range-locations-information/ You could go west to Heritage Guild in Easton http://www.heritageguild.com/rentals.aspx or southeast to Brick / Toms River for Brick Armory / Shore Shot You are also pretty close to Old Bridge Rifle and Pistol Club: obrpc.org They don't rent, but someone from Old Bridge will probably chime in soon and let you come on as a guest. ‎

I think that describes my wife to a T... although I would never call her a sandwich maker. She goes to the range maybe once every 6 months or so and shoots a few magazines and is done. She knows it's just something I like to do and is willing to go along with new gun permits (my town requires spousal permission) as long as I don't complain when she comes home with new shoes. Marriage is give-and-take.

That shotlock seems like an interesting system, although I would feel uncomfortable having anything near the trigger. Only other problem for me is that you can't keep a light on the rail with the shotlock on the gun, but no light = no problem.

Welcome to the forums. What town are you in? Couple of things to ask: * Is your Wife 100% on board with you purchasing a gun? * Would your wife consider getting her own FID? There are a couple of reasons I ask this. First off, if your wife is 100% on board with this, you may want to get her involved in choosing which shotgun to purchase. This board is a family and most of us her would be happy to invite you and your wife to shoot with us at a range. If you live in the Cherry Hill area or are close to Ft. Dix or Philadelphia, PM me. The two of you can try out some of my pistols and shotguns. If your wife is as small as my wife, she may want a 20 gauge shotgun instead of a 12. There is nothing wrong with a double-barred shotgun. It's been used for home defense for over 150 years now. But in reality, a double-barrel is a farm implement that can be utilized as a self-defense weapon in a pinch. I think there may be better choices. There is a reason why the Mossberg 500 and Remington 870 are so popular. Plus you get 5 shots instead of 2. I'm not saying that two rounds won't be enough for almost any situation, but the problem comes from that "what if" scenario of needing three rounds when the first two don't cut it. Reloading a double-barrel shotgun requires fine motor skills which break down under stress and you always fall back to your lowest level of training under stress. Are you and your wife willing to practice reloading 1,000 times until you can do it alone and in the dark while scared? Gunfights and home invasions don't happen under ideal conditions. I personally think that the Mossberg 500 is easiest to load since you just drop the shell in the loading port and push with your thumb. It is also easier for lefties to use since the safety is on the top of the receiver. An 870 has a little duckbill on the loading port and you have to manually push the shell down and in, but that little duckbill keeps debris out of the loading port. The 870 also has a crossbolt safety which is a little harder for lefties, but not insurmountable. There are advantages with both systems. The Army uses Mossbergs. The Police use 870's. Whatever feels best to you is the better one to choose. Shore Shot and Brick Armory are somewhat in the Central Jersey Area although more toward the coast. I know that Shore Shot rents and I think they rent by caliber, so you can buy a caliber package and shoot as many guns as you want in that caliber. I think Brick Armory rents, but I'm not sure. Like I said, plenty of people here would offer to meet you guys at a range and let you try out our stuff before you buy. If you are getting a handgun and you don't plan to shoot very much (once or twice a year), consider purchasing a Glock 19, M&P9, Sig P226 or Springfield XD9. They all have have 15 round magazines (NJ legal limit). Or consider a revolver like a Ruger GP100 in .38 Special or S&W 686. There is a simple reason for this. None of those guns have manual safeties. Like I said before, you will always fall back to your lowest level of training and you don't want to be defending your home and trying to flick off a manual safety if you don't practice very much. I would stick with 9mm or .38 Special for now because that ammo is fairly plentiful and easy on the wallet. Going with .40 cal or something esoteric like a .357 Sig or 5.7mm doesn't make that much sense for a new shooter because of the cost of the round. Take it from me. My first handgun was a .40 cal and it took me 10 years and a hew hundred dollars to realize that I should have gotten a 9mm. If you plan to turn this into a hobby, then you can start looking into guns with manual safeties like the Berettas, CZ's, HK's, FN's and 1911's. I shoot my Beretta handguns every Tuesday night at a range in Philadelphia and my shotguns once a month at Ft. Dix. I'm at the point where flicking off the safety is built into my muscle memory, but this took years to do. My first handgun was a Glock and it's a fine first handgun although the M&P9 is everything the Glock should have been and should be considered by anyone who looks at a Glock. Again, welcome to the forums. Please watch the two videos below and seriously consider joining the NRA and NJ2AS.com Any chance that I will see you at the Rally in Trenton on the 8th?