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I had some more thoughts on this, but I didn't have the time to knock them out this morning. I think that the 9mm Pit Bull will be come their best selling gun, and there is a very simple reason why. I've always had a thing for "Innovative" guns. The PX4 Compact was innovative (dual slide release and a rotating barrel). FiveseveN was Innovative (capacity and cartridge). The Beretta Nano and Sig P250 are innovative (modularity). I like this because this gun shoots 9mm in a very innovative way. Now the only person I've ever really heard review this gun was Jeff Quinn from Gunblast. And he is hardly impartial. He has never met a gun he didn't like. If you want to get into why this gun is important, we have to talk about revolvers in general: Why does someone choose a revolver? Well, they may choose it because it looks nice, or because of a mechanical satisfaction that they find lacking in semi-autos. They may want the reliability of a revolver, or it just fits their hand well. The only real downside of a revolver is its limited capacity, speed of reloading, and cost of ammunition. .38 Special ammunition is more expensive than 9mm ammunition. There are a number of reasons for this, from the amount of copper in the case to the diminished popularity of .38 Special cartridge. You could say that one of the major disadvantages of a .38 Special is the .38 Special cartridge. With the 9mm, you are getting a little bit more velocity for roughly the same bullet diameter. Previous 9mm revolvers used moon clips - which were a pain because they broke or bent, and you hurt your fingers getting the cartridges into the moon clips. But this revolver allows you to load your Pit Bull the same way you load any other revolver. This is a very innovative way of doing things. Now you can get a more effective and less expensive cartridge than a .38 Special in the same platform that is normally chambered in .38 Special. It is the best of both worlds. Best of all, if you have been reluctant to buy a revolver because you don't want to carry another caliber, but want a revolver for your collection, this revolver scratches the itch without forcing you to make more room in your safe for a new kind of ammo. I think Charter could have a hit, and I plan to buy one as soon as it comes out.

I can say that I've been interested in this for years... it's a neat concept.

Oh, Heller... McDonald... The fact is that It's important to be a member of NRA, SAF and NJ2AS.

From what I understand, nobody knows how "10 rounds" became the standard capacity. Maybe it's because we have ten fingers and ten toes? Maybe it's because we count in bases of 10? Nobody really knows. Heck, in NJ it's 15, in Maryland it's 20. In Chicago its 12. In Washington, DC it's 10. In Ohio it's 30. In NYC, it's 5 in a rifle, 10 in a pistol. How did Chicago come up with 12? From what I understand, the reasons the magazines were grandfathered in during the original assault weapons ban was that the framers of the bill thought that magazines were consumable one-use devices. In other words that you bought the magazine with the ammunition already inside of it and once it was used up, you threw it away. This is what happens when you have people who don't know anything about guns ("That shoulder thing that goes up") legislating about guns. Of course, if they did know anything about guns, they wouldn't be trying to limit capacity anyway. Capacity is a chimera. The Columbine shootings were done with 10 round magazines and standard-capacity shotguns. The VA Tech shooter had a 15 round Glock 19 and a 10 round Walther .22. It seems like most extended pistol magazines turn your gun into a jam-o-matic. Heck, the reason that the Tucson Shooter was able to be disarmed was that he inserted another 32 round mag and it jammed. There must be something about the spring tension in pistol magazines that make magazines of over 17 rounds "iffy." I don't see myself ever purchasing a 30 round magazine for my Beretta 92 - I would be too afraid that it would jam if I ever needed it. But that doesn't mean that I wouldn't want someone to purchase a 30 round magazine for their AR.

I like you Paul, but I wonder how 1st Lt. Mohsin A. Naqvi would feel about that commercial. Or Cpl Kareem Khan for that matter. I think they have given more for this country than Crockett Keller ever will.

+1. With my wife, nothing was coming out as hard as she tried and the lactation consultant made her feel like a piece of garbage. I didn't see her again after that...

Columbine was done during the AWB with AWB compliant weapons. The Virginia Tech shooting was done with NJ compliant weapons. Guns aren't the problem, crazy is the problem...

Zero in an election year. Politicians are going to run from this like plutonium. Them remember 1996 and 2000.

It makes perfect sense to the kind of people who don't understand what you need a gun for anyway. I'd personally like to see someone attach a provision to this bill that bans cars that can go over 65 MPH. The speed limit is 65 in most states. What do you need a car that can go 100 MPH for anyway? That is for professional race car drivers, not the average citizen... get my drift?

Depends. I went to Lou Greenwald's office back when he proposed a magazine restriction bill. His aides told me that I would have to turn my 15 round magazines into the police with no compensation. This is what got me involved in politics and 2A / NJ2AS work. Lou Greenwald made me. I tend to buy 6 magazines for every gun I own and by my estimation I have about 20 of these magazines. These magazines have a substantial dollar value attached to them, and I don't like the idea of having to turn them into the police and replace them with 10 round magazines. Or, the magazines could be grandfathered in federally like they were in the first AWB. Can you imagine the logistics of confiscating every magazine in America? IMHO, this bill has ZERO chance of passing, especially in an election year. Heck, I can go over the 1000 round limit just by purchasing 2 bricks of .22. I think this is going to do wonders for NRA's recruitment.

I think your problem is that you weren't using a PX4 Storm... ... but seriously, you were shooting a rental. Why knows how many times it was beat up, or dropped, or whatever? If all of your shots were going in the same place, they you have high precision, but low accuracy. I'm not worried about groups that are off, but are generally in the same area - I can compensate or adjust for that. I'm worried when the shots are all over the target. If it doesn't happen with your SIG, I would say it was probably just the rental.

I saw it on ABC News yesterday. It was covered. Stuff like this... it's like watching Michael Jordan play basketball. I could practice all I wanted, but I will never be as good as her.

Also keep in mind that this was the time when the Federal AWB was in full effect. If you can only sell guns with 10 round magazines, why not make the guns smaller? Why not make them thinner? Why not lobby state legislatures for carry so that you can keep selling guns? I wouldn't be surprised if there was an economic component to this as well. That was around the time when smoking bans started up and states were losing money from tobacco sales. I'm sure that some of the money I sent to Florida went into the state coffers. It kind of blows my mind that NJ would give up the potential for millions in revenue out of fear. It seems like about roughly 5% of the population in any state chooses to carry in shall-issue states. If you figure that NJ has 1.2 million gun owners, that would equate to 60,000 carry permits. I would gladly pay $100 a year to carry in NJ which would equate to an extra $6,000,000 per year for the state. or roughly 120 new state troopers, or 171 new teachers.

Gun-deals.net has an ammo page. Or for $2.00 a week you can get the information delived to your home. And you even get a free newspaper with it.

I messed around a little bit on the Rocky Mountain Gun Owners website. The website has a list of merchants who have "No Carry Signs." One of those business is the Century theater in Aurora. You'll have to scroll to the bottom. http://www.rmgo.org/index.php?postal_code=&radius=5&keyword=Cinemark&tags=&Itemid=206&view=directory&layout=combined&task=search_zip&option=com_locator

As I told my wife when I was telling her about the Charter Arms Rimless 9mm Pit Bull: "Need is a very subjective word..."

There is a reason the G19 is so popular. IMHO, the 26 isn't a bad buy either. Get the grip adapter and you basically have a G19.

No. Nothing happened after the Gabrielle Giffords shooting, and that was one of their own. There will be "serious debate" and talking heads and lots of screaming, but unless this really was a terrorist attack, this will go away just like that mass shooting in Seattle did a few weeks ago. In other news, 250 people were killed by pro-government forces in gun-free Syria today... unfortunately, you have to pick your poison. With freedom of speech comes "Leaves of Grass" and "God hates Fags." With RKBA comes freedom from government tyranny and the occasional horrific misuse of guns.

That's a good point.

Ok, I buy that. It just seems kind of late and the subject matter kind of dark for a 6 year old. But I understand that as an explanation.

Not that I'm blaming anyone here, but who takes a 6 year old to a midnight movie?

Even with a name like "James Holmes," I think that there is too much going on for it to be a mad gunman. Is it just a coincidence that it happened on Ramadan? The guy threw a smoke or CS grenade in a theater. Why did he do that? He did it to get people to run to the exits so they would present an easier target. This is not something a crazy person thinks of doing. A crazy person goes in blasting. Throwing a smoke grenade to get people to pile up at the exits is something that a trainer tells a trainee to do. Maybe a terrorist trainer? I don't know. It doesn't pass the smell test for me.

Yeah... I was thinking of that. Today is the start of Ramadan. He had some sort of gas grenade, and I don't think you can buy those at Gun stores even in "Free" states. Something smells fishy. Lone wolf terrorism? As for concealed carry... I don't think that would have been a factor. #1. Concealed carry works by deterring criminals by deterring them from committing a crime in the first place. Anybody who is intent on committing mass murder won't be deterred by the potential of a guy with a gun. #2. Concealed carry works by outgunning the criminal. If you have an LCR and the bad guy has a knife, you win. If the bad guy also has a gun, you'll probably win too because the bad guy would probably rather flee than fight a murder charge. If someone has a rifle and grenades in a movie theater, a handgun is better than nothing, but it's not a fair fight. #3. Who on earth goes to see a Batman movie on a Thursday night at midnight? Teenagers and college students do since everybody else has to go to work at 8AM. You have to be 21 to buy a pistol and 21 to CC in Colorado. I would say that most CCers are men in their late 30's - early 40's and women in their 20's. They also probably have jobs and wouldn't have been at the theater that late anyway. So in cases like this, I don't think CC would have helped anyone. That doesn't mean it isn't necessary. A seat belt isn't going to help in a 100 MPH head-on crash, but you wear it anyway.

The Glock is a fine pistol, but I have my doubts that the military would ever purchase a gun that had no manual safety. If they went with a polymer pistol in .45 my guess is that it would be the M&P45 (since it can have a safety) or Beretta PX4 SD since it has the same manual of arms as the M9. There would have to be a sea change in order to get the US Military to accept guns with no safety, and I don't see that happening any time soon. All of the Majors and Lt. Colonels in the military now were 1st Lieutenants and Captains back during the FOB years in Iraq and Afghanistan. They did plenty of 15-6 investigations on ND's with M9 pistols. I doubt any of them would risk their careers on picking a gun without a manual safety.

I respectfully disagree. Here's why: Yes, NJ law does not apply once you leave NJ, but it will apply when you bring it back. Don't we still fill out the NJ COE when we buy a long gun in PA? Yes, the gun store clerks laugh at it and probably toss it in the shredder when we leave, but we are a New Jersey resident who is intends to circumvent NJ law. You acquired the gun outside of NJ while a NJ resident and brought it back into NJ. Remember, there are no BB Guns, there are no black powder guns, there are no percussion cap guns, there are only GUNS in New Jersey and you need the associated paperwork.