Old School

Griz, right on the money- Alot of good advice out there today. OP- If you want to shoot a G19 get in touch and we'll get you started.

Dan- Thanks for the info on the paint and I'm sure it works fine. Dan & Rifleman - Why are we painting these mags again? Because we have the wrong mags laying around? Help me out here guys. I guess I'm just old and senile. But as I remember it we used firearms loaded with our defense ammo for defense.

Good Job Mark and right on point! To the OP: If someone like Mark were to take you under their wing, you would be a lucky noobie.

Yo Bryan - I'll take folks at their word 'cause it doesn't matter to me and if they are FOS it'll come back to bite them in the A$$. As far as base plates. You'd laugh like hell. I have a thing for segregating mags, at a match we have mags w/ labels, initials and sparkly nail polish on the base plates.

I have a nice wood one that was a take off if you want to trade. And I believe you can get a 1" longer butt plate/recoil pad. Here's a link: http://www.rimfiresports.com/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=RSC&Product_Code=BW07

Gotcha!!! IDF is a good thing. I like those guys and women. Now that I have your attention. G19 Love it! 15 rds of Hornady Critical Defense should do you well, If you need a spare mag keep that in there too. Get rid of the spare mags, they shouldn't be clutting up the box. Just so you know those colored base plates you bought have a special meaning in the GLOCK world. Not that it means anything to you but orange means training mags, blue means Simunition. BTW are you the PT supervisor I met at the rehab center? I he was IDF.

Don't forget, based in fantasy and with no understanding of the human condition.

Or how about this one Ken? "The gun will scare them away.." I don't want to scare anyone. I want to protect my family and myself. Scare them? If necessary, I want to (to say it politely) neutralize them.

Could be... I thought the 10' corragated pipe was cool. See how they used the space under the floor for storage?

Mel - I watched it last night. Agreed the "Tilapia" family were a buch of flakes. Especially when I saw him put a cased pistol in his bugout bag. Really accessable..LOL. Yes the salesman underground guy did have a welder working on his door too. So no great degree of secrecy there. I like the two families on the farm! Just liked them. Real sensible!

I apologize for my lack of patience but I've quit smoking and am still grouchy! This is such NOOB BS! You are in a Bio-box. Load the damned thing, put one in the chamber, and remember that if you don't want it to fire, don't pull the trigger. PERIOD!! This kind of BS "I wanna be so safe" $HIT is just one step from being an "ANTI". Such paranoia! Get traning and arm yourself properly or sell the pistol and program 911 into your yuppie I-Phone and maybe someone will come and save you in about 25 minutes. Thank You for listening. My therapy session has concluded.

When I was a kid BP was all we had... And we walked up hill to school, both ways...

Nick- I was an English tutor at a Community College. I agree it was sickening!

Fifteen months and $3.70. That's $.24666666666666666666666667/month. And this thread endures.....

You are so on the money. When I hunted w/ a double 12ga #7 1/2 IC in barrel one and #6 Mod for barrel two. Later I hunted w/ a 20ga auto. #5 or 6 Full choke.

Adam- Nice sensible rifle. Good Job man!!

Well, we should get together. Little Restaurant for breakfast or something.

Hey neighbor, from Oak Ridge also. When you need to borrow a cup of sugar, stop by. Frank

Now let's see some of those Ninja AR's....

Adam- Print this out and put it in your gun case, It's everything you need to know. AR15 Sight Adjustments at 25 Meters Windage/Elevation Sight Type Barrel Length (NOTE): for Dissipator-style barrels, use 20” One Click of Adjustment @ 25M moves point of impact by: ELEVATION: FRONT POST Elevation A1 Front Post (round) 20 " 1/4" (1 MOA) Elevation A1 Front Post (round) 14.5" or 16" 3/8" (1.5 MOA) Elevation A2/A3 Front Post (square) 20 " 3/8" (1.5 MOA) Elevation A2/A3 Front Post (square) 14.5" or 16" 1/2" (2 MOA) WINDAGE Windage A1 Rear Knob 20 " 1/4" (1 MOA) Windage A1 Rear Knob 14.5" or 16" 3/8" (1.5 MOA) Windage A2/A3 Rear Knob 20 " 1/8" (0.5 MOA) Windage A2/A3 Rear Knob 14.5" or 16" 3/16" (0.75 MOA) ELEVATION: REAR DRUM (NON-Match sights) Elevation A2 Rear Drum 20” 1/4" (1 MOA) Elevation A3 Rear Drum 20” 1/8” (0.5 MOA) Elevation A2 Rear Drum 16” 3/8” (1.5 MOA) (estimated) Elevation A3 Rear Drum 16” 3/16” (0.75 MOA) (estimated) 1. Adjust the sights to the windage mechanical zeroing position by one of the following methods depending on your rifle: a. (For A1 sights) Flip the rear sight aperture so that you can see the (L). Next, turn the rear sight windage drum until it moves all the way to the left side and locks. Then, turn the windage drum back, moving the rear sight to the right 17 clicks so that the rear sight is approximately centered. b. (For A2 “8/3” sights and A3 “6/3” sights) Flip the rear sight aperture so the small unmarked aperture is up. Center the rear sight by turning the rear windage knob until you align the windage notch on the down aperture with the center notch on the rear sight base. 2. Adjust the sights to the elevation mechanical zeroing position by one of the following methods depending on your rifle: a. (For A1 sights) Adjust the front sight post up or down until the base of the front sight is flush with the front sight post well. Then, adjust the front sight post 11 clicks clockwise in the direction of UP. b. (For A2 “8/3” sights) Lower the rear sight all the way down by rotating the rear elevation drum counterclockwise. THEN, rotate the rear elevation drum clockwise UP one click past the 300m mark (the 8/3 mark on the drum). c. (For A3 “6/3” sights on a 20” barrel) The A3 rear sight differs from the A2 in that its elevation index is marked 6/3 instead of 8/3. NOTE: the A3 sight has 1/2 Minute of Adjustment clicks instead of the 1 Minute of Adjustments of the A2 Sight. Thus, the A3 elevation dial must be moved TWO clicks clockwise UP past the 6/3 mark on the drum to the Z mark. Otherwise, the windage drum and flip-up aperture - and their operation - are the same as on the A2 rear sight (For A3 “6/3” sights on a 14.5 or 16” barrel) Same procedure as for A3 6/3 sights, except set the elevation drum on the 6/3 setting, not the Z setting. 3. Once the rear sight is properly set, fire your 5-round shot group. 4. ELEVATION ADJUSTMENT a. To raise your next shot group, rotate the front sight post clockwise. b. To lower your next shot group, rotate the front sight post counterclockwise. 5. WINDAGE ADJUSTMENT a. To move your next shot group to the left, turn the windage knob counterclockwise. b. To move your next shot group to the right, turn the windage knob clockwise. 6. Once your point of impact meets your point of aim, your rifle is zeroed. Do not adjust the front sight for distance; for the A2 and A3 sights, once you are zeroed at 25 meters by this method, your rear sight drum is calibrated as a bullet drop compensator for 300 meters and beyond using the small aperture. For distances from 0 to 200 meters, use the large aperture and put the elevation drum on the 3 setting. SOURCES: --Operator’s Manual, Bushmaster XM15 and C15, Revision of 2005. --Field Manual 3-22.9, Rifle Marksmanship, M16A1, M16A2/3, M16A4, and M4 Carbine, April 2003 with Change 3 of 28 April 2005 (and Changes 1 and 2). --http://groups.msn.com/TheMarylandAR15ShootersSite/zeroingmethods.msnw

I didn't know Eugene Stoner designed the AR for steel cased ammo...

Happy Birthday Big Guy!!

Chris - Your avitar is getting annoying.