Old School

Welcome from Oak Ridge!

Good point Vlad. I always use a contol round. Generally 22lr. And if that seems reasonable I procede.

I don't know if you are referring to me but I said "Sounds high" And if you don't like it meet me in the school yard! I have three different barrel length ARs and a chrono if you want to play. After I make you eat troll in the school yard. Play nice you Bozos!!!

Chrono data did seem high but I've been laying back because it seems like this thread has inserted a hair up some members A$$es. Yes Vlad- it appears humility is not an attribute exhibited in this thread. When I get quite after reading these threads, I'm quietly laughing.

+1 20" service rifles are the bomb! Reach out and touch someone....

And I bet GLOCK did it with contempt. The old man is a MOFO, very independant!

The loss in velocity is approx. 50fps/inch of barrel length less than 20". So at distance the tragectory is rainbow.

Respectfully CH I've owned four ARs and still own three. Two were DPMS, one Bushmaster and one Del-Ton upper w/ Bushmaster lower. No problems! I shoot factory 223, Mil 5.56 and reloads, just no sh!t steel. Maybe I'm just lucky. Never had a problem. I do maintain them but not like a crazy. I really think for range guns and SHTF guns there's lots of stuff out there, If you do alot of schools and drills you may need something from a premium manufacturer. But, then of course you still better stay on top of your maintenance. Pretty much agree?

Cross post from another forum. http://www.outdoorlife.com/photos/gallery/guns/2011/05/gun-killed-osama-bin-laden?photo=0#node-1001345432

If you want an assembled rifle talk to Paul at A&A one of our sponsors. He is right there are really no bad factory AR's out there today just private individuals that put together lousey guns and snobs that look down there nose at anything that's not $2k and tacticool. Listen to Paul and enjoy shooting. Like CH said there are loads of members that will let you fondle and shoot their rifles.

Welcome from Oak Ridge

I might be there as well with your bullets, Maybe... But at anycase we can wrestle for brass, Best two out of three falls

Give me a buzz when you go up there. I'll shoot with you, bend your ear and clean-up your brass. See, I'm a brass whore, talker and lousey shot!

Agreed-I never put out any mods on the net for obvious reasons. We really need to get together and trade info. Maybe we're on the same page, maybe you get a better trigger. Likewise I'm running 3 guns with about 50k combined through them but I change configurations based on different rule books.

OK Slav you are driving me crazy...Every couple of posts I am disassembling a stock gun and attacking it with a pair of calipers. All the results I post are taken from an unmodified pistol. And being we can't account for any poor mods any one makes I have to limit my comments to a stock gun.

I understand what you are saying exactly. Wolf for one does pack a light stricker spring with their lighter recoil springs. I've shot pistols with light recoil springs and standard stricker spring and haven't seen any issues but now that you mention it, it's something I'll really take note of. Like everything I guess we are talking about how light and how played out a recoil spring. Thanks Vlad, good point.

I could be considered a Koolaid drinker. Lunker is right about GLOCK making changes and that's why I'm on the phone with them from time to time. I understand about the unsupported chamber thing was a problem. I could explain why they thought it was OK but there's no excuse. The thing I don't understand specifically is how messing with a trigger pull could cause an Out of Battery Discharge on a GLOCK. The striker safety plunger blocks striker travel until the trigger is pulled and the trigger bar depresses the plunger. Granted there are alot of hacks that shouldn't be messing with anything mechanical. For example: "The $0.25 triggerjob" I saw a guy polishing a sear on Youtube an while back. OH! OH!

I'd appreciate that! I have one stock gun left and I'd like to see what others have done. Whose trigger kit did you use? I went the hammer,sear, shims and trigger return spring route on my short range varmint killer. Interested to know how you went and the results.

Like I said between three Millet scopes quality varied.

Stock or heay barrel?

Melgamatic- Do you have the barrel band on rhe front of the stock? Shoot it temporaryly without the barrel band and see what it does... Nice results BTW, Good job!

I can't tell you what to buy but I can tell you what is spotty. I bought two Millet DMS-1 scopes. The first one I had was OK(maybe) so I bought a second one for Kimber. Kimber's was fine but I found the first one was not as bright(light up reticle) as the second one. So, I returned the first one. They took it back with me paying for shipping and service charge. The returned scope was OK but when you put the caps on the turrets it sometime turned the turret. They are made in China and quality is hit and miss. No more Millet for me. I recently went with Sightron and I'm very happy.

Glenn you are absolutely correct. You stand a decent chance of blowing up your A$$ and a perfectly good shot gun.

Chris I had the golf cart w/ the box attached.

Yeah! After today, I'm Mike's B!tch!