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Though I support the NRA, be careful! They will nickle and dime you to death!

Not so fast you don't know the whole story. This guy was an upstate resident but violated NYC law. A bullshit law at that. His crime as depicticed was violating NYC law not state or federal. He may have made a stupid mistake and the Bloomberg boys are capitalizing on it!

Bry@n--New Egypt---Very far :? Matt I think $40 a head and you get some raffle tickets. Believe me a good time! corrected

Anybody going? Want to get a Table? We need 10 people(5 couples) Minebrook Golf Club 500 Schooley's Mountain Rd Hackettstown, NJ 07840

fight my way to Ray-Ray. yeah ray ray is the key There was a point where I would have thought twice about teaming up with RayRay... But now that he will be accumulating RELIABLE GLOCKs I would be willing to team up with him knowing his weapons will always function.

Troy, you're standing on the edge of the pool. Jump!!

Troy, just jump in the water! You'll love it! If you want to do it and need equipment I think we can hustle you up some stuff.

Welcome to the side of enlightenment Ray Ray! If you need anything, related to parts or info let me know. I'll be glad to help.

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Welcome to the forum! To make it a short answer...No gun for you while trout fishing, period... Now if you're turkey hunting you can carry a fishing pole... Get it? I fish the Rockaway in Jefferson all the time and saw bear tracks in the mud on Tuesday. No biggy, they're not going to hurt you. It just hasn't happened yet. I had them in the yard today, just holler and wave your arms. I've smoked 13 trout already this year. If you have any extra I'll make room in the smoker.

If you're venting pressure before the end of the barrel, there MUST be a velocity loss. Perhaps it's not much, but there must be something. Looking here http://www.accuratereloading.com/223sb.html It appears that each inch of barrel results in 20 to 80FPS loss. Porting the barrel may not be a complete loss but you're losing full pressure about 1.5inches back from the crown. Suppose you're losing 30% of the pressure...that's going to be 9 to 36fps[(1.5 * (.3 * 20))] or [(1.5 * (.3 * 80)) . Ok, not much of a big deal. Shrug. I'll keep you posted on my AR build. I'm thinking of getting that non pistol grip thing from the other thread and having the exposed buffer tube. Why not, at least it'll be different. Agreed Mark- But any way you look at it the loss would probably be about what the standard deviation of the ammo is. I didn't look at your tables but tables I have looked at are very interesting. The greatest loss in velocity is when you remove length from an already short barrel.

Hey Jen: I'm glad Anthony is letting his you and his BETTER half handle this! He's just such a trouble maker. PM me and tell me what is involved in captaining a table. I'll see if I can get enough of my cheap, dead beat brothers and sisters on the forum to attend. My wife, daughter and I have attended enough of these events to know they are a good time. Frank

A real consideration is what type of handgun it is... I'm guessing we are talking about handguns. If a weapon has a decocker I would say find a safe direction but then modern pistols with decocker's block the hammer while decocking. My HD gun is a GLOCK so for peace of mind I point it at the floor(the garage is underneath) but no way in hell it's going off unless you pull the trigger. The Big thing is be intimately familiar with you firearm and keep that damned finger out of the trigger guard. And a modern weapon is ultimately only as safe as the operator.

How much velocity loss is there since it's a short barrel to begin with? I think most folks put brakes on .223 ARs just for looks...there's really no need since the recoil is almost nothing to begin with. Porting doesn't really add to the look as much as a brake. When I finally get around to building an AR this year, mine won't have a brake on it. Not that I think they're bad, just not my thing. Now if I could get a brake that reduces noise but doesn't rise to the level of a suppressor, that I could be interested in. Maybe I could get an accelerator that increases felt recoil but directs the noise and blast down range Mark-- I don't think there would be any measureable velocity reduction from Magna porting. As far as reduction of muzzle jump it's a rifle intended for competition so any edge is welcomed. If you want to shoot mine or work on a build, you're riight around the corner, let me know. Being the cheap bastard I am, I'd help you build the best quality rifle that could be built for the cheapest price. Frank

My AR has a 16" bull barrel (like .920 dia,) I was thinking of Magna-porting it. About $100 total. Why don't more people do this? Your thoughts...

Martin: On the 1st of May or when you shoot the first mike? Please clarify. Frank

Good advice thanks! I've tried to pull the trigger in a locked back slide before. :naughty:

Retired military are the worst when going through volumns of ammunition. They shoot like Uncle Sam is still paying for the ammo.

Cool, glad to hear that. We're shooting production. Doing a family thing!

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Hey lad, you PM me and I'll let you shoot a couple of GLOCKs at Cherry Ridge. Frank

Yes. As far as I know, the only NJ legal mag for the G17 is the 10 rounder. The 17 rounder isn't legal. The XD9 has a 16 round mag, also not legal. Again, the 10 rounder becomes the legal mag. I don't like the grip safety on the XD9. Shrug. OHHHHH I get what your saying now. I thought you were saying 10rd was the max mag limit I'm like uhh no it isn't If you buy from a reputable place they should pin the mags for you so you can be good to go with either gun. Just a heads up. M You're dreaming Mathew!!!!! I shoot 10 rounders in a G34 all the time you can't modify high capacity GLOCK mags because you would remove the ability to diaasemble them which sould be done periodically.

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You're on the money Kal. Even for hunting loads I load a dummy round touch the bullet to the rifling and then adjust it back into the case for my required length, minimizing the free bore jump.(Just make sure they work though the magazine) I've said this before and I'll say it again. Reloading is a science and you cannot approach it like baking a cake. If you want to bake a cake buy factory ammo or load mediocre ammo that goes bang.