So let me start this off by apologizing for being "that guy" who comes asking this type of question. I totally understand that it's completely a matter of opinion, but a lot of you [read] are a hell of a lot more experienced than I so I come to you and beg.

 

I'm about to start the paperwork to get my pistol purchase permit (I feel stupid every time I say that aloud, btw) and I'm torn between the XD9 and a Glock17. At first I was not considering Glocks because of the price, but I guess with the new generation coming out places are dropping the 3rd gen models. For a loose idea I've been checking thegunsource.com for prices and the Glock is actually $20 cheaper.

 

I was also looking at the SR9 but keep hearing it has some issues with the trigger pull; and the other options have more of loyal fan base.

 

I guess I'm just looking for opinions of people who have experience with both.

I only have two comments.

 

One, buy the gun that feels the best in your hand.

 

Two, I wouldn't buy either gun because of the 10rnd mag limit in NJ. If there are 15rnd mags for either of those guns, I'd buy the one that has it.

 

This is why I own an HK P30 and would also buy a Sig P226.

I only have two comments.

 

One, buy the gun that feels the best in your hand.

 

Two, I wouldn't buy either gun because of the 10rnd mag limit in NJ. If there are 15rnd mags for either of those guns, I'd buy the one that has it.

 

This is why I own an HK P30 and would also buy a Sig P226.

 

 

10 rd limit??????????????????????????????????

 

But I'd go with the XD. One of the nicest polymer guns I've ever shot. Also for another 100 bucks down the road you can get an upgraded trigger which makes it ohhh so sweet.

 

10 rd limit??????????????????????????????????

 

But I'd go with the XD. One of the nicest polymer guns I've ever shot. Also for another 100 bucks down the road you can get an upgraded trigger which makes it ohhh so sweet.

 

Yes. As far as I know, the only NJ legal mag for the G17 is the 10 rounder. The 17 rounder isn't legal.

 

The XD9 has a 16 round mag, also not legal. Again, the 10 rounder becomes the legal mag.

 

I don't like the grip safety on the XD9. Shrug.

 

10 rd limit??????????????????????????????????

 

But I'd go with the XD. One of the nicest polymer guns I've ever shot. Also for another 100 bucks down the road you can get an upgraded trigger which makes it ohhh so sweet.

 

Yes. As far as I know, the only NJ legal mag for the G17 is the 10 rounder. The 17 rounder isn't legal.

 

The XD9 has a 16 round mag, also not legal. Again, the 10 rounder becomes the legal mag.

 

I don't like the grip safety on the XD9. Shrug.

 

 

OHHHHH I get what your saying now. I thought you were saying 10rd was the max mag limit I'm like uhh no it isn't

 

If you buy from a reputable place they should pin the mags for you so you can be good to go with either gun. Just a heads up.

 

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If you get the chance, head to Shore Shot Pistol Range in Lakewood. They are a sponsor for this site and have both guns up on their rental board. Ray is right that you should shoot them both and get an idea for their feel. That said, I prefer the Glock. I think the XD has the highest bore axis of any gun I have ever shot. That translates to more perceived recoil and difficult followup shots. I believe the Glock really shines in 9mm. I have a G34 and it is the pistol I am most accurate with, especially with rapid fire strings.

It does suck having to use a 10 rouind mag when they make one in 17 rounds, but that's New Jersey for you. Check out the thread below for Shore Shots rentals. Call there and ask for Kyle. He is their rep on this board. If he's not there, the other guys can help too.

 

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I'm up in Morris County which is a good hour and a half away from Shore Shot unfortunately.

 

I've held them both for a very brief moment and leaded toward the XD. I really do need to find a place to just shoot both of them though.

I'm up in Morris County which is a good hour and a half away from Shore Shot unfortunately.

 

I've held them both for a very brief moment and leaded toward the XD. I really do need to find a place to just shoot both of them though.

 

Have you held the S&W M&P?

 

If not.... wouldnt hurt.

 

I am in Rockaway Twp. , more then welcome to shoot mine....

Sadly, my big limiting factor is price, and the S&W was a bit out of my range. Glock only made it in because of places trying to get rid of gen3 (I assume).

 

But yes, I'm in Mine Hill, so if I ever do come across some funds to expand my selection, I may wind up bothering you =P thanks!

The M&P feels better than either the Glock or the XD in my opinion (although I still shoot the Glock better). Shore Shot has an M&P too.

I think there are only one or two gun shops in the whole state that rent pistols. Considering you are talking about a $500+ investment, maybe a 1 1/2 hour drive is warranted.

As a shore resident, my advice is to do it now before the summer parkway traffic starts.

 

Good luck on your hunt.

Sadly, my big limiting factor is price, and the S&W was a bit out of my range. Glock only made it in because of places trying to get rid of gen3 (I assume).

 

But yes, I'm in Mine Hill, so if I ever do come across some funds to expand my selection, I may wind up bothering you =P thanks!

 

The M&P's are usually right with the XD's and Glocks as far as pricing... $500-600

Sadly, my big limiting factor is price, and the S&W was a bit out of my range. Glock only made it in because of places trying to get rid of gen3 (I assume).

 

But yes, I'm in Mine Hill, so if I ever do come across some funds to expand my selection, I may wind up bothering you =P thanks!

 

The M&P's are usually right with the XD's and Glocks as far as pricing... $500-600

 

I was going to say...they are almost identical in price.

No other pistol feels as good in my hand as an M&P...The trigger is easy for me to use, but could be better. Upgrade kits exist for all triggers and they are even offered by the Smith and Wesson pro-shop in Springfield, MA.

+1 Try to shoot both and see which one works better for you.

 

I have an XD9 and it would be one of the last guns I would ever sell. I love it. There are "some" 15 round factory magazines floating around on gun broker, Springfield continued making them for awhile, but seems to have stopped production on them.

 

I've shot a glock 17 (10 Rounds in NJ), and have owned a glock 19 (15 rounds). And they are good guns, but you need to make sure that it is comfortable for you. I personally don't like the grip angle on glocks all that much.

 

And if you haven't alrealdy applied.. apply for more than 1 pistol permit. They only cost 2 bucks a piece and it will save you a lot of time and headache if you decide you want another pistol or want to get something different.

Try looking at the CZ75b, They have 15 round mags available and are reasonably priced. They are accurate, reliable and are a joy to shoot at the range. Just a opinion. If your set on the Glock or the XD I would go with the XD.

And if you haven't alrealdy applied.. apply for more than 1 pistol permit. They only cost 2 bucks a piece and it will save you a lot of time and headache if you decide you want another pistol or want to get something different.

 

Agreed, I always apply for at least 2 permits - even if there is only one handgun I am interested in purchasing. This would allow to buy a different one if you are not happy with the first, and not have to wait 4-16 weeks.... :roll:

 

Oh yeah, XD +1

I will pipe in here..... neither.

 

Since the mag limit will pop in here on both pistols they are automatically out of consideration. So is the SW M&P. I would rather go with a compact 9mm or single stack then have a full size weapon with nuetured capacity, that drives me bonkers.

 

See ing your budge of $500 here is my list of possibilities.

 

You can find G19s for $499. That would be my first recomendation. High on the BGFM (Best Gun for Money) scale.

You can also find most times on the used market in excellent condition, Browning or FN HPs, Beretta 92 or Taurus 92s, Walther p99s, SIG 226 or 228s. CZ75s can usually be found around $400, CZP01 and PCRs both hold 13rds and can be found for $500 or so. These are all EXCELLENT handguns for great prices.

 

You could also change caliber to .40 or .45 and serve yourself a complete helping of decsion making hell, but 9mm is a great place to start. Heck, I have a SIG P6 single stack 9mm I might be willing to part with to a new shooter for not much.

 

I am sorry but I feel that those three pistols are actually the worst choice for NJ until someone starts to make a 15rd mag for them and I dont see that happening any time soon.

Go through gssf if you want a glock. Much cheaper and there are other benefits to the membership

I don't know why I thought M&P was more expensive. I guess I just made that up.

 

About the mag limit: Can you just not buy magazines in NJ that are over 10 rounds, or are you only allowed to load 10 in? Like are the mags altered to only allow 10, or is it just an enforced rule?

 

And with the GSSF, I just join for $35 and I can buy a glock for ~$425?

Re: gssf. Yup. That's exactly right. Join. Takes about 6 weeks to get your membership. Call the line. They tell you where close to you participates and you get it that way. I'd start the process asap so you are ready when the permits come in. You can do this with one purchase per year

About the mag limit: Can you just not buy magazines in NJ that are over 10 rounds, or are you only allowed to load 10 in? Like are the mags altered to only allow 10, or is it just an enforced rule?

 

 

If you can find the mags that are permanently blocked to 15 rounds you can use them. While you're out looking for those, pick me up a golden goose because they're probably sitting right next to each other in a leprechaun's pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.

About the mag limit: Can you just not buy magazines in NJ that are over 10 rounds, or are you only allowed to load 10 in? Like are the mags altered to only allow 10, or is it just an enforced rule?

 

 

If you can find the mags that are permanently blocked to 15 rounds you can use them. While you're out looking for those, pick me up a golden goose because they're probably sitting right next to each other in a leprechaun's pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.

 

15 round magazines for the xd-9 pop up on gun broker all the time.

Why is 10 rounds an issue. My p226 is 15 rounds and sometimes I only load 10. 10 seems like it's a good point to take a rest and evaluate what's going on

UPDATE!!!!!

 

JUST CALLED S&W ....

 

Part# 39498

 

NJ COMPLIANT 15RD MAGS IN STOCK!!!!

 

JUST ORDERED 2

:clap:

I'm not too concerned with the mag limit. Would I rather more? Yes, but 10 ruin my day. I'll pick up 15 mags as I find them.

 

I think I really need to find the time and a place to go and just shoot them to figure out which one works for me.

 

Just on a side note: Since I've been looking into what pistol, I've avoided Glock because of the price, but now that's somehow managed to become the lower priced option.

 

Mind. Blown.

Overt.... Gaston Glock made SO much money while everybody else was playing catchup he has been able to keep his products price down for the last few years.

 

I have seen NIB Glocks gor for between$425 and $600... you just have to look around and not pay the fanboy price.

 

Now... glocks are not my favorite manufacturer, but the G19 is. It is the perfect blend of size, capacity, accuracy, accesories and concealement capability I have found in a combat handgun. My .02.

 

And to be honest... I did not know about the gssf discount. Hmmmm.... maybe a new G4G19 is in my future.... hmmmm

 

Just on a side note: Since I've been looking into what pistol, I've avoided Glock because of the price, but now that's somehow managed to become the lower priced option.

 

Mind. Blown.

 

The issue is that to buy a gun that goes bang every single time when you pull the trigger, you have to spend at least $400. Cheaper than that and it's hit or miss. Glocks are fine guns. I don't happen to like them but that's just me and I'm picky. They're very reliable and quality built.

Any of the guns mentioned here are reliable, accurate and are available at around the price point you're shopping in. I have an XD9SC, a CZ75 and a M&P (in .40), and they all work well for me. At various meetups, I've shot Glocks, as well as damn near every other 9mm pistol around (if you come to the events, the guys here won't let you get away without trying their stuff), and there are things I like about them and things I don't. I can't get comfortable with Glocks or Sigs. It's not the guns, it's my hand. They just won't get on target easily for me. I shoot the CZ better than I shoot a Beretta, although they're very similar. I'm okay with a Ruger, but it wouldn't be my first choice. You get the picture.

 

You can go the the store and fondle the guns until doomsday, but you won't know what you like until they're lined up on the table and you go from one to the other until you eliminate the ones that don't work for you. There are guys who love Walthers, but I can't get used to the mag release. There's gonna be things you like and things you hate, and it's entirely a personal decision.

 

As to the mag capacity, it isn't really an issue for me at the range. The M&P is my nightstand gun, and it holds 15. So does the CZ. The XD doesn't. No big deal at the range. I usually only load a handful of rounds anyway, and do mag change exercises. There are guys who like to max out the mag, I'm just not one of them. It's all about what fits you and works for your style of shooting.

 

Try to get with some of the members who have a variety of guns, and just try them all. It doesn't make any sense to get something that you can't feel good shooting.

I can't say enough good things about the CZ compact pistols (75B, P01, PCR). They feel an shoot great, and they are all-metal guns! No plastic (if you're a tactical Tupperware hater).

Since I've been asking around, I've heard a lot of people mention CZ. It's definitely being added to the list of potentials. I just need to find a place to shoot; might have to take that road trip down to shore shot.

 

I have about a month before I even have the permit to buy it anyway, so I should be able to find one to shoot.