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PK90, thanks again for your input. I can certainly see that you are of the opinion that I should have brought it back to the FFL ... that is clear. However, I was unable to. Now, I'm thinking that since the wording of the legislature states "retailer", in this case Cabela's, that I should still have some recourse and am not 100% convinced that I need to wait the 30 days. I will continue to search for a solution, and if I find one (or don't, for that matter) I will report back with my findings. Rich

Hey PK90, thanks again for your time and the info! Regarding returning it to my FFL, I would have loved to, but the point of sale was Cabela's and the only way to get it done properly (according to parties involved) was to return the handgun to Cabela's, receive a point of sale refund and then purchase the SA XD 45. So, getting past that, anyone have any thoughts on how I could recommend Cabela's to proceed with this? I have a good deal of confidence that Cabela's will be willing to work with me, and contact whoever needs to be contacted, but I'm just not sure who that is. After my conversation with the Superintendents office, I get the feeling that having them call there or fax documents there will not bear results. The assistant that I spoke to did suggest that I have them contact the Deputy Superintendent of Investigations, as that is the bureau that deals with firearms issues. Any thoughts on this? Again, a great many thanks for all input. Rich

Hey All. Just checking back in with a progress report, or more accurately, lack thereof. My efforts to contact the NJSP Firearms division met with "... sounds like you have to wait the 30 days." Well, I did some more checking and it turns out that I am not crazy. NJ S3104/A4361 is the ammendment known as "One Gun a Month". This ratifies "NJ Gun Rationing Law", which went into effect 01JAN2010, and limits NJ lawful gun purchasers to 1 hangun every 30 days. The documents for S3104/A4361 can be found here: http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/2008/Bills ... 104_I1.PDF and here is the Summary: http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/2008/Bills ... 104_S2.PDF These were passed via Assembly on 09JAN2010, 73-0 I believe and signed into law by Corzine on 12JAN2010, according to this post: http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Read.aspx?ID=5303 If read page 4, line 13 of the pdf document in my first link, it deals directly with my situation, and states that I am, in fact, capable of receiving my XD without allowing 30 days to pass. The questions I'm trying to have answered now are: 1) When does this law go active? 2) Who and how (phone, fax etc) does Cabela's contact to proceed with this? Document indicates NJSP Superintendent, but the secretary for the Office of the Superintendent was a) unsure if the law was active and b) did not believe that calling/faxing the superintendents office would get the desired results. Any thoughts on this? I really appreciate your time and knowledge in helping me try to get this resolved. And as soon as I get this resolved, I'll be able to post back with how the Jackson Township Police Dept goes about handling permits in the wake of this disaster ... err law. Many Thanks, Rich P.S. - I looked for forums rules on posting links and couldn't find anything, so hope its allowed!

Jeremy, I should know for sure by the end of today. My XD arrived at my FFL on Saturday or Monday, but being a holiday yesterday, he was unable to get an answer from the NJSP. He's going to call back today and try to explain the situation and find out if there are any steps that can be taken. Perhaps I can fax them the reacquire form that Cabela's uses to prove the handgun is no longer in my possession. My FFL seems to agree though that unfortunately, all signs seem to be pointing to me picking up my handgun on Feb 11, 2010 ... not happy about that at all. Rich

Thanks for infos PK90 ... I was unable to return it to the NJ FFL, as the gun was purchased from Cabela's. In order to receive the swap for the SA XD, I had to go through Cabela's. Unfortunately, now I'll have to wait the additional 25 days. Patience is a virtue as they say ... I guess. Thanks again everyone.

Gentlemen, Thanks for the extremely fast replies! I really do appreciate your attention in these matters. Ok, so it looks like I'm going to use up that second permit. I'll have to live with that. Can always apply for a new one. Hoping to get an answer on the first question. Apparently, dissemination of information to FFL's is horrendous on the issue, as I now have my FFL friend attempting to get the right answer on this one. And John, I am really looking forward to putting some rounds through the XD. I am reading good things and cannot wait to get it. :clap: Thanks again All! Rich

First of all, hello everyone. I'm a new member and this is my first post. Very happy I found you guys. I realize that there seems to be far more questions on this subject than answers, but I thought maybe if I stated my situation and asked concise questions, I may have a bit more luck finding an answer than the countless hours I've just spent trying to get on the phone with the SP and Googling until my head ached. On 02JAN2010, I purchased a used Glock 21 from Cabela's in PA. They shipped the firearm to a NJ based FFL located near my home in Jackson Township. Using one of my two handgun purchase permits (I applied for these in October), I took possession of my Glock on 11JAN2010. Upon receipt, I followed up with vigorous operation and I found the gun to be undesirable and possibly defective (a story for another post). On 13JAN2010, I returned with the Glock to Cabela's, whereupon examination, they concurred with my assessment and promptly issued a reacquire of the Glock 21 and an exchange for a Springfield Armory XD .45. I called Cabela's today to check status and the new firearm was shipped to the same FFL as the Glock 21. It was shipped overnight, but I do not expect to be able to take possession of the SA XD until Tuesday at the earliest, due to the NJSP telephone requirement and that is only if I can find an answer to my questions ... which are: 1) "What steps, if any, can I take to ensure that the State of NJ recognizes the fact that while it may appear that I am coming into possession of two handguns in a single month, I have actually relinquished ownership of the Glock and wish to take ownership of the SA XD, for a net total of 1 handgun? If this cannot be done, how do I properly ask permission to buy two in a single month?" 2) "Do I need to use my second valid handgun purchasers permit to take possession of the SA XD, in effect wasting my first permit, or can I somehow reuse the first permit for the SA XD?" I have been unable to contact my FFL to pose these questions, but after an exhaustive phone and internet search, I have come up with no answers and I am really hoping you folks can help. Thanks, Rich