Shane45

This is why I feel the courts have created a caste system. Us surfs go to jail and X football players go free.......

Parker, NICE rifle and equally nice shooting! The M1A is one of those rifles that I simply can not tell you why I want one but I do! I agree with you on the recievers too

Damage, let me clarify a bit. I AM a firm believer in classes etc etc, I think Im just choking a bit on the price point/return. If the price isnt stiff for someone that wants to take it then I would fully recomend it.

If it is truly mil/le only sales....I would be concearned about legal issues arizing if god forbid I had to use it. If you havent read the link I posted under must read, it really is a must read because it is a fantastic detailed look at all that can go wrong for you in a rightious shoot.

IMO If you have the aptitiude, you dont need the class. If you dont, you shouldnt be trying to exceed your own limitations. As already stated there is a metric ton of good solid info on the net including the Mil Tech manual. For those that havent done it and are mech inclined, in my opinion the term build is misleading. At this level it is more assembly. It takes me about 200 hours to "buld" a 1911. It takes me about 2 hours to assemble an AR. So dont be intimidated by the term build. TM 9-1005-249-23&P http://www.archive.org/details/ArmyTechnicalManualforM16Rifle-Tm9-1005-249-23p

I wanna say around 12. There were some good shooters at that match!

Hmmmmm I would say my proficiency is in this order, Pistol, Rifle, Shotgun. I took 1st place at this 3 gun match.

Well I dont mean to sound negative but I find it to be a lot of money because in my opinion its a task barely worthy of a class. They call it the lego gun for a reason. Now if we were turning the barrel, fitting the barrel extension and chambering it, then it would be a great price.

The two links I posted earlier in this thread are relevant to a product called polyshock. Suposedly it deals with some of the issues surrounding shotguns and I have heard it is effective. What I dont know is if it is mil/le only. www.polyshok.com I also want to appologise. In looking back through this thread, my point was made long ago. Regards, Shane

Ray, Im painting you in a corner on your own arguments. You said it cant be beat, now your pointing out shortcomings to a double barrel, MUCH like Im pointing out to you shorcomings of a pump. Your arguments are starting to back pedal. Am I to understand a shotgun cant FTF or FTE? Someone better tell the guy at the last 3 gun who's 870 was a jam o matic all damn day! If your going to use 3 shots then Im going to point out that a double tap or hammer from an AR exceeds the energy of a single shot of buckshot from a shotgun. Yes it would suck that you only have 2 shots but you can shoot both at the same time unleashing holy hell. Your statements that at close quarters your pump cant be beat because of the power. I have given you examples of greater power. How is the pump still better using your own criteria? Why am I bothering? Because I want to drive it home to you that there is no best! Your statements in absolutes are what I usually take from someone as a lack of understanding of the subject material or a closed mind. If your mind is closed, theres no debate or discussion.

If I do get an M1A, it wont be a SA anyway. I want one from LRB that uses a real forged reciever compared to Springfields Cast reciever.

Like I tell my kids, theres the way it should be and the way it is! http://www.armedcitizensnetwork.org/images/stories/journal/Network_2010-9.pdf

Double wierd, link works for me..... lets try another site altogether..

Very odd. It worked before.... Heres the link. Ita a micro Galil. http://world.guns.ru/assault/galil-mar.jpg

Oh I see Ray, the bullet acts different if its not a Drug Cartel Member. I'm coining the fraze Ray Ray Logic. Funny you never answered any of the questions...... Here they are again: If simple math is your guide, then I would be well served pulling the scope off my SRS and slapping irons on it. Its shorter than your shotty and from a math perspective..... its no contest. Or perhaps a double barrel 10 Guage, wouldnt that be better? (SRS, DB10Gage or your pump).

He keeps it under his pillow hehe

Despite what the SP told you not every PD operates that way..... Because of the gay, I mean grey areas of NJ firearms law, its an area I feel they could hang you up if they wanted to so I personally wont own a preban serialized M1A despite the feature deletes.

The house across the street and next door have both been broken into. I live in a middle class neighborhood. Officers I spoke to attribute it to drugs, gang insurgancy and some unemployment.

When Ray Ray wasnt looking I snapped a photo of his!

Parker, I tend to agree with you. I think in the case of the pre ban M1A and ar15, because they recieved special attention they are painted into a corner. A PD IS going to looke at the serial # range as it relates to date. I know this from experience

Take the trigger stop screw out completely and see if the problem goes away.

I dont usually like to post gore but... some need an idea of 5.56 effectiveness. A Mexican ploice op. Both sides armed with 5.56. Most were semi's I believe. The Police AAR I have of that Cartel battle is even worse but AK's were used also and I dont know which were which... WARNING GRAPGIC CONTENT OF 5.56 WOUNDING!!! http://lh3.ggpht.com/_vJcKa90vLkg/S2RTVcBdVjI/AAAAAAAAHyA/NSZDq4Rjx4A/s1024/image004.jpg http://lh4.ggpht.com/_vJcKa90vLkg/S2RTVauO_3I/AAAAAAAAHx8/cDeP3ZxNjlc/s1024/image003.jpg http://lh4.ggpht.com/_vJcKa90vLkg/S2RThChDhHI/AAAAAAAAHyM/lXpQplH5K8k/s1024/image007.jpg http://lh6.ggpht.com/_vJcKa90vLkg/S2RTg_KWWCI/AAAAAAAAHyI/JkspbO3VNfU/s1024/image006.jpg http://lh4.ggpht.com/_vJcKa90vLkg/S2RTV8oUYmI/AAAAAAAAHyE/jUXoC6tsQ4Q/s1024/image005.jpg