Shane45

Damn I type slow.

Not saying its 100% authentic because I think its weird the way the hole bottoms out to black but the buildings do match. I think they are from opposite perspectives

Ha! Does it count I had a file in my hand when I typed this?

I told you guys the Locusts were coming!

Anyone catch the news that Manchester PD had to open fire on Sunday. PD responded to call at which point they were confronted by a man that doused himself with gasoline and threatened to torch himself. They talked him into putting down the lighter but then he drew down with what later turned out to be a fake pistol. They fired killing the suspect. Sounds like the classic suicide by cop scenario......

Thanks! He he I sweated the shotgun portion each and every time!

Hey no one told me there was a video of me out there!!!! facebook account needed to view: http://www.facebook.com/#!/video/video. ... 4906941572

Oh Crap, just realised the revolver part. Yeah, dont own one of those... I see there will be an auto division

For us unwashed riff raff, what does the coarse of fire look like?

I see how I missed it now. I dont usually read rimfire threads.

Griz, I think we are on the same page. I should have included in my "for what its worth, own experience" that a sampling as small as mine is really irrelivant and actually ment to make the point that you did that you can get a bad one from any of the manufacturers. With that being said you better your odds the higher up tha ladder you go To the OP: viewtopic.php?f=11&t=8259

GRIZ, the bolt is the one item I in fact would say yes, give me the SP MPI tested bolt every time. I think I have said it before on this forum but the people I really look to are the trainers in high round count classes. They are the ones that have a front row seat to whats holding up and whats not. Usefull info IMO. And as most already know about me, Im in the Buy once Cry once camp, cuts down on the frustration . Id much rather have it and not need it than find myself in the need it and not have it at the worst possible time. Of my own personal experience I have had 3 Rock Rivers, 2 Colts, 1 Bushmaster and 1 build of my own. The only 1 that ever gave me trouble was 1 Colt. With that being said, Im down to 2 AR's. My older Bushmaster and my custom AR10. My Robarm XCR has become my favorite 5.56 rifle.

Some reading 4 U http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key= ... utput=html

As with most everything you get what you pay for. Novesky, LMT, Colt 6920 all good. There is a pretty good chart somewhere on Arfcom illustrating the differences in brands.

...but would be a bad choice for HD unless you live on a farm. Over penn would be a big issue here. The only exception may, MAY be something ike Hornady TAP in its 110grn loading.

Oh yeah, a wheel gun! But make mine a 4" 460 :twisted:

Ray Ray, not so. In a compilation of actual shooting data big magnums did not do as well as other calibers. 41 and 44 mag did not do as well for example. Although this may seem counter intuitive, the reality is that the power works against the big mags. They tend to go through the target instead of dump all their energy in the target. The single most effective round IIRC was the 128grain JHP 357. It had the right balance of speed and weight. Thats why you see many cartridges trying to reproduce those numbers like 357 sig and 9X23 winchester. So when the Jello shooters figured out what the 357 did in terms of perm damage, temp crush etc etc the closer the numbers match what the 128 grn 357 does the better it is predicted to perform in the real world. So when they are designing they try for those characteristics. IIRC the goal is about 12 to 14 inches of penn. Less or more is worse in terms of performance. I do not recall the other numbers. Now when it comes to actual gunfighting I would take say a 9mm over a 44 mag ANY TIME!!! Why? Because trying to rely on a 1 shot stop with a pistol is a sure way to book a trip to the morgue. I want a lot of chances to hit a vital organ and I want fast split times(time between accurate shots). edited to add that I am strictly speaking in terms of pistol rounds.

mipa linky link link it I didnt see it either!!!

"But the individual has to really think it out before relying on a system that can go through multiple sheet rock walls (as well as the threat), possibly friendlies in the next room or next door." This is all about bullet selection. Ball ammo = Issue. Correct ammo = far less penitration than say buckshot.

Bry@n, you are not in the military on a battlefield. Because of that fact you are not bound by the Geneva convention and the Hague accords. What does this mean to you? It means you can use whatever freeking ammo you want. There is some seriously effective 5.56 available to us civies. So in reallity it is a non issue for us. I do not care for 6.8. To much issue wrapped up with that caliber. SPC, SPC2 chambers, whos on what spec. Which ammo is which spec. Which builders are on SPC2, pressure issues if you mix the two :roll: 7.62X39 is fine in an AK but frankly sucks in an AR. I have no experience with the commie 5.45 but I dont see a lot of motivation to go to that over 5.56.....

The only "cheap" scope that I know of that has a rock solid reputation is the Bushnell Elite 3200 fixed 10X.

I believe that is an article out of American Handgunner. Ayoob files if Im not mistaken.

You should just give the Goat to me so your not conflicted

Wow, talk about sustained fire :shock:

I have reviewed piles of cases. Ive seen 3 dropped with 1 shot each of 22lr and others absorb mountains of lead. Shot placement trumps all else. The salient point is that unless you score a CNS shot, no matter the pistol or caliber, they are not the best solutions. This is the very reason I have come to appreciate capacity. In the argument of caliber vs capacity, I think there is a strong argument for capacity, it gives you the most chances for a vital hit(as long as its not spray and prey :naughty: ). Now Im not saying I want a 22 with a 100 round mag. 2 of my 1911's in .45 are 15 rounders though