Shane45

South Some other site is also looking to extend theirs out to 600. I am fortunate enough to have an open invitation to a private 1250 yd range in NJ.

True the thread is non hollow points but suince its been brouight up I heard it straight from Nappan's mouth about not leaving hollow point ammo in any form in your vehicle or on your person.

Real names so I can look out for you guys? Might look odd of I start yelling out civic tuner medic yeti liberty or death :? Mine is suprise suprise... Shane. I drive a green Subaru Forester. (SHUT UP! :evil: )

"PS I do not even own any expensive bolt actions, they're a waste IMO." I'll consider your statement the next time Im shooting at 1250 Yds

Red, once you start belting out rounds out of that M1A thoughts of that mosin will fade fast!

Im in too. All squared away with ammo and a shotty! Dont expect to much from me with the scattergun though, I havent fired one in well over 22 years!!!

I thought about getting the tri rail but I wanted the BUIS of the standard model. Looking at it though it looks like mounitng a Micro might be problematic.

24Mil could have bought a lot of this:

Hehe well FN held the contract for the M16 and M4 for quite a long time as well. The problem is not so much with the caliber, its the ammo. Civy 5.56 is very effective but the Hague etc etc restricts military ammo. Now some new ammo has come on line, Mk318. It is reportedly siginificantly more effective. I say lets stop with the kinder gentler war crap and use the most lethal shit we can find!!! Interestingly a General shared your views. I dont remember the name. He felt that in an all out possible WW3 scenario, you just cant be sure who your allies and enemies may turn out to be so it is potentially a serious supply risk to have your arms outscourced. On a side note I was getting a bit worked up over the SCAR/ACR. I started thinking about selling my DSA SA58c. Took it to the range last weekend and ran some rounds through it. Still not a fan of the controls but...it is one kick ass rifle. Even for 308 recoil is really manageable as you can see by these pics and brass still in the air.

Guys, keep in mind that he did serve as a Navy Seal. But uncle suger is not his boss anymore, the director is.....

The standard PS90 optic is a white reticle and frankly it stinks. Its easily washed out in anything resembling light. The housing is polemer. When the USSS adopted the P90 they had them do an optic in a metal housing with a black reticle and tritium bars for low light. Although its considerably better than the original, I find it still lacking. Its just to small and a little low for my big head.

To me the whole point of the 5.7/PS90 is the small package so I agree on the ar version. Ive found the ammo prices to be on par with 5.56 mostly because its 50 per box. My hope is to move across the border at which point that sucker would get SBR'd. 50 rounds in such a small package has a lot of usefullness IMO. As usual though, its a matter of selecting the right tool for the job. EA has some pretty hot ammo for it. Some 3000+fps zingers and some 55 grainers at 2300 fps. Id rather have that than a 9. I got mine with the Secret Service optic. Its a hair low for me. Im likely going to pull it and pop an Aimpoint Micro on there. Maks, as long as your rounds arent hosing down the joint and are impacting the berm correctly, Ive never had a problem with rapid firing. And well with that gun, I could do it one hand and not worry By the way, the P90 is really no different to fire, It just doesnt go anywhere even on full auto. Runs like a sewing machine :twisted:

For my go to But for some reason I really really have trouble holding on to 45 and I dont have the Dillon up and running yet. Looks like its a trip to Dicks tommorow for some 45 and #8

Really. Thats cool! But a distant second to the cool a$$ mancave you got going on!!!!

Bickering? Havent seen it yet. I am well aware that the crowd I run with has skin so thick you would need a jackhammer to get through it. And I realise the sensibilities of the gen pop are different so I put myself waaaaaay in check when in your house. But Im with Damadged that the unsafe are going to get rode like a pony!

"It was not your place to argue with the guy." Not so. There are no RSO's at my range. Its CJRPC with a policy of self policing. It is up to each and every member to enforce the safety rules. "take a look at the post where you guys hammered jermz1987" Ask Jermz if he felt "hamered" by me. I suspect you will find he didnt. "Here is the thing though, if you are not there, next time, do you honestly believe he would not handle his firearms like a dumb-a**?" I do because when I brought up that point, I could read in him the well shit, that is a good point, change in his demeaner. And even if I'm not hopefully someone like me will be and he will get the same speach. "At the end of the day, what you do does not make you any better than anyone that you do not want to be on ar15.com. " I respoecfully disagree. The influx of armchair commandos have driven off many people with real world experience and good advice. Add to that a fan club of moderators and members. Any of you remember the Dick Swan, Frank Green debacle and the flood of coolaid that flowed? There are a few good people that I hear still post there but... I suspect its lost in a sea of white noise.

Medic, very kind, thank you! As luck/fate would have it a friend owed me some green and just said take my mossberg persuader instead. Im leaving to go pick it up in about a half hour. If I can get ammo all sorted out, Ill be there!

Redfish, I agree... mostly. You have to remember one thing. We engage in an activity where what you do can directly affect me and vice versa. Think about the example I gave previously about a 308 semi with AP ammo. Thats an individual that if an incident did happen, someone can get injured or killed. Could be me or mine or it could be my rights are impeded because of his actions. I will ALWAYS beat the horse dead into dust on topics like that. Here is an example NON FORUM RELATED but it makes my point. At the range last weekend. Old guy with K98's, Mosins etc etc. Another with AR's. Range is called cold, lights on, alarm sounded(no weapons handling on the cold range). It reached the point where I almost had to knock the old guy out! People are down range. Guy 1 start handling his AR's... with people down range. I call to him, hey people down range! He stops handling his rifles. Well, I guess old guy didnt like that so he starts arguing with me that on his rifle the bolt is out so "technically" its not a rifle any more. I say look it may not be able to fire but its still a bad practice. We go around a few more rounds and the whole time he keeps handling his rifles....with people down range!!! I reached the point of look we can debate all you want, stop handling your rifles or whatever you want to call them "technically" while people are down range! I finally convinced him his position was wrong by pointing to my son and saying your teaching him or anyone like him handling is OK with people down range. I finally hit a point he couldnt argue, it took a while. Funny that my 10 yr old was standing there going "people down range, dont touch your weapon" the entire time, he just didnt hear LOL. The reason I give this example is it is not a matter of opinion. What he was doing was wrong and a direct violation of safety rules of the club. If it takes me forever to argue with someone like that to finally get the point across, I will. Its in all our best interests!

Sigh.... do I take a zero on the shotgun stage on the three gun this weekend or go buy one of these.....

theRU, its not guys like you on the new shooter side of the fence that are a problem. I will help someone like you all day every day! I have been given a lot of top shelf info by guys that have a pass it along philosophy. I believe it is my duty as the recipient to in turn become the presenter. When I broke into pistolsmithing, it was like I invaded a secret society. It literaly took years to finally make aquaintences with smiths that had the above philosophy. Its the guy that as a new shooter is either embarassed about the fact or has an inferiority complex that can be a pain. These are the people that are hard to help because they are filled with "I knew that" or its "My uncle was a navy special forces green beret seal team 6 operator and HE said a semi 308 with AP ammo is the BEST solution for home defence in an appartment complex" I find the example of BAD advice troubling because another new shooter might actually listen. Another is "I dont see why argue argue argue". It always baffles me when I get into a discussion or debate with someone over a technique on something only to find out they dont own, have never owned and have never shot the item they are arguing about. I guess in the end I dont mind helping anyone if its for good cause. When I find out it was a time waste, I get irritated. I admit it.

I was not aware of an elitism problem. That is not to say it doesnt exist and or maybe its something Im guilty of? If I am let me know! But to BBK's point and to my original point, lets not turn this into AR15.com! I have been on forums longer than I would like to admit! I have watched them rise and fall. Hell I was a member of AR15.com before it was a sponsered site! Anyone remember that? And so with those experiences the words of caution are born. The only site I have seen truly be able to grow and still hold onto what it originally was is the Hide. Its because they suffer no fools there and you cant swing a dead cat without hitting an operator, fed le, manufacturer, world class shoooter, world class smith, etc etc. But that methodology would not work here. The sensibilities and sensitivities are different here. Which is a good thing for a hometown style forum. Perhaps a good edict or approach for all of us to follow is this. Talk, talk, talk, your way, my way, points givin, points taken, OK now lets go meet up so I can really show you what I mean and you can show me what you mean. In other words shut up and shoot! Nothing teaches as fast as actual experience. Or lets meet up so I can actually help you with what you are asking about. THAT in my mind would be the ultimate service from a forum for a forum. Shane

His reply said anything Joisey legal. Hell I was thinking of bringing my PS90(5.7), Kriss(.45), XCR(5.56) and DSA SA58C(7.62) and running each one because I would really like to see the time spread and performance difference between them all. I have never done a 3 gun but Im betting the long guns either get staged or they break up the stage in between each discipline. This is a guess however. My experience thus far at that range is they like to keep the pace a hair on the relaxed side because there is a lot of new shooters in attendance. At least this has been the case for IDPA matches there(except for the classifier). Here is the email addy of the gentlemen I have been corresponding with: [email protected]

2nd Bike a BSA?

Hehe its amazing how well the popsqueak fits the pipsqueak! And it has such low recoil it is a breeze for kids to shoot. The entire overall length of the PS90 is 26.5 inches.

Was working on my double taps last weekend and my son was really good about the last few range trips he didnt get to shoot so I brought this along and let him get some trigger time. I had to have some fun too!