Shane45

There is clean and there is CLEAN. For me, a quick going over like vlad describes is what I normally do. But if its been a while with a lot of rounds through it or the rifle is going to go dormant for an extended period, then I do a "full service" cleaning. If I am doing a full cleaning I usually pull the optics. This is done primarily to protect against a moment of butter fingers. I do tend to have a lot of high $ optics on my stuff so it just seems like a prudent move. I haven't dropped one yet, but I know so many that have.

Projected dots seem to be the issue for those with astigmatism. Etched reticles seem to be the solution. Something like the Leopold prismatic. Just keep In mind you cant cowitness an optic of this type.

I prefer the lack of clutter in my sight picture that a single dot brings. With that being said, the timer showed me there was zero difference in performance between the two for me. My times on the clock were identical with either sight. So if performance was equal, then the next deciding criteria are battery life, durability, reliability and the mounting solutions. In those areas I found the Aimpoints to excel.

A product probably exists. But consider that by going the pic rail/qd mount route, your bipod remains pretty universal and you can swap it between rifles if need be.

Thanks CF! BobA, can you confirm what it is you are looking to pin?

So you concede that there is a scenario where this is possible! We are making progress here as they say. I have a Stevens 30/30 bolt action rifle. I have NO interest in shooting it. I shot it about 40 years ago with my Grandfather that I was very close to. Its just not my thing. But it will never be fore sale even though I do not shoot it. He left it to me passing over his own two sons. His father left it to him. It will always serve as a memory of my grandfather and a representation of him. So it doesn't matter that I don't shoot it. That is not the value that it holds for me. "I will also add that since it was already shot that the value will not diminish. " I thought it was posted at some point in time that it was unfired. Although I don't see that now, it certainly is the implication.

Clearly you lack reading comprehension. Let me help you with that: "When he gave it to me he made me promise not to shoot it. " So it would appear your 100% wrong on what the dad wanted. Don't duck the question, answer the scenario I gave you!

Yes, a sub 16" Barrel will need to adhere to federal law, NFA standards. So the pin would need to be welded. The part that everyone forgets on that front is that it has to hold! If it is able to be removed with normal hand tools it is deemed to not have been permanent. Now as far as the OP's question. If it is indeed a suppressor you are talking about, it don't matter what you do with it. If it is not in direct support of active military or police action, you cant bring it to NJ. As a class 3 we went to PA to do Demo's because they cant even be brought in for a demo for Police!

Ray, the amount of things that don't make sense to you is starting to become a pretty substantial pile. 1st, a NJSP issue, unfired P7M8 is a pretty rare thing. I would say it absolutely has collector value. But that is NOT the value it holds for the son that received it from his father. Only he can decide if he wants to shoot it or not. If it was to just see what its like, Id go find someone else's to shoot and keep it exactly the way it was received from his father. But from a purely collector perspective, it is worth more than most bring back 1911's but a BB1911 or an old SAA aren't going to be devalued by shooting UNLESS THEY ARE ALSO IN UNFIRED CONDITION or explode. Shooting an unfired collector piece WILL reduce its collector value. As fas as understanding, you mean to tell me you cant understand keeping a firearm passed down to you from a family member as an heirloom? So if your father passed down to you some ancient bring back weapon that he took off a soldier he vanquished while fighting in the pacific during WW2 and won a CMH for but there is no ammo available for it, well then its got to go because YOU wont keep something you cant shoot?

Point of view? Discussion? I don't see any case articulated by you. I only see contrarian comments and silly ones about wearing out components. I guess you couldn't possibly strip out a screw on a fixed mount eh? Its not a discussion when you don't consider or respond to any points made and you just poo poo the idea because it doesn't fit your purview. You don't even concede that there are uses that don't pertain to you personally but that you can see the case for it. You just cling to a negative perspective based on.....YOU don't see the need.

Ray, you don't seem particularly well versed on the topic and you don't seem to care for this type of mount so I find myself wondering why you are posting in this thread. There are MANY reasons for QD. With My setup I can have my rifle setup for 800 yd shooting and in 5 seconds reconfigure to go CQB if I choose, or reconfig again for a NV setup. My "kit" leaves me with many options based on the emerging need. Sometimes I use QD just for the simple convenience. I even use QD on my precision rifles for that very reason.

Yeah I am probably an outlier. I have A LOT of optics! And many of my rifles are set up to be reconfigured extensively between CQB and DMR, especially my 308 rigs. But aside from that, my stint manufacturing mounts has taught me a great deal. I concede that for many it just wont really matter much, but if we are seeking a deep dive "truth" there is much information to be had here.

Here is the thing, it could and does happen, so why use a mount that can do that? Some people keep the cam lubed to try and keep it from happening but...I'd rather just use a mount that doesn't use the rail interface as a contact point that "grinds" the contact surface. Additionally, think about that methodology and how little contact surface that yields. Less than optimal when repeatability is your goal.

Dissenting opinion alert. Surprised there is still so much Larue support these days. I take my RDS on and off rather frequently. So Larue wouldn't make my list. Bobro or ADM. Although not quite QD, the Scalerworks mounts look interesting. Havent had hands on though.

Until you start cutting half moons into your rail, then it will start shifting. If you put it on and leave it on Larue is probably OK. If you move your mounts on and off more frequently, there are way better options, some listed in this thread.

Its OK Ray, we wont hold your man crush against you! MUCH

Well we know of 2....and here is my shocked face

If you feel your getting value from watching Yeager, I have Saddam's AK id like to sell you for $10,000. Its a good deal, honest!

If I were really a shotty guy indeed the Black Aces would be where I went. But because its just an experiment at this point, the shockwave was cheap enough. HE on a roll!

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Id rather not say publically since it was the act of individuals and not the range its self. PM me privately if you would like to know.

That's been your lucky experience. Myself and another member here were aggressively approached about our rifles by the Fudds at a range at which point we fully expected to have SWAT roll up on us as threats of calling the police were made. We ended up having to head it off at the pass by involving range officials. There are MANY people that share the sentiments of tagonagy. I have personally conversed with many in the shooting community with these concerns. Cases in this state of moms being arrested over paintball guns because, you know, possession of a "pistol" without a permit, don't exactly leave confidence for all police interactions. So perhaps your sphere of experience, despite its duration, is not as encompassing as you might think.

In my opinion it is not a sky is falling attitude. I expect even here many will be shocked at what gets proposed and passed. I have said for many years, the ONLY thing nj will recognize is being forced to comply federally, and even that will be a battle stuck in many years of court cases. Again, in my opinion, that is the only hope for this state. The election is clear evidence of that.

Is that a real question? Do you really have any doubt?

I think he meant DSA SA58.