Shane45

Well...I think that Dicks is a scumbag company and I have VERY serious doubts about their true motivations for stopping the sale of said rifles. Lets just say that they already had MAJOR issues and were in violations with agreements with the provider of said rifles. How convenient they cancelled the order first chance they got.

In my opinion it IS a testament to the platform. Keep in mind that the IDF has plenty of Galil's, FAL's etc etc on hand but CHOOSE to field the AR platform. It was preferred over the others.

Vlad, Im not questioning you, Im disagreeing with your postition. I think your missing some of the bigger picture. If an organization caves so easily to take the easy road, how many might follow if they are not made aware there is a large silent majority out there that dissapproves of their actions. On the NJ thing, would you prefer I turned tail and ran, or do you prefer that I am standing here and fighting as a founding board member of NJ2AS?

I think THAT would have been a great thing to have in the NRA speach! Mention the wild sales triggered by Obama and implore those new buyers to secure their purchases and seek training on operation and safety.

My thoughts and concerns are aimed at the national level and are directly inspired by first hand reports of said soccer moms. This is a segment that simply would not be buyers under normal circumstances....

Im not really focusing on the legal side of things. Im talking about the unintended result of AR sales and what might be in store for us when there is a percentage of folks that now ran out and bought who are barely sure which end is the dangerouse one. The fact of the mater is that stupidity and criminal/homicidal activity is the enemy of our rights.

So is Obama going to go in the Guiness Book of records for being responsible for the most AR sales in history? He already is jokingly called gun salesman of the year but this time he got the whole internet sold out!!!!! I have a lot of "connections". I tried to help out some fellow Jerseyan's and get a handfull of AR's out of a cancelled order I was aware of. A BIG cancelled order. 60,000 units. They were spoken for in its entirety within 24 hours! I have heard distribuler level figures of moving 175,000 units in just a few days. I do not have any actual verifications of these numbers but catching a few comments from Seekins precision, they have a pretty high manufacturing capacity and are so far behind that they are simply backordered with no way to provide ANY eta. Previously it was 6 to 8 months a few days ago. I think the American public has voted witht their wallet! So I have a hard time digesting the idea that "most Americans" are for banning these types of rifles. How many have sold since the president made his announcement? How many have sold over the last 5 years in anticipation of a gun grabing administration? 500,000? 1,000,000? But with all those sales, should those of us that are dedicated shooters have a worry? What are the unintended consequesnces that might lie in store for us? It goes without saying that times like these sure make practice tough! I dont want to use up my ammo because Im not sure when I will be able to replace it!!! Need a part to fix something, good luck! Dealers that focus mostly on semiauto rifles are probably going to be sitting around staring at each other soon with nothing left to sell. Manufacturers are in a real pickle! Do they put 3 or 4 more machines on the floor at $150,000 each before tooling only to run the risk of an executive order that will close the doors on them? But I think these are the stories Im hearing that give me real concern. When I hear about soccer moms buying LWRC Reapers that have NO IDEA what they are even buying, it does give me some concern. Im concerned because society has become so anti gun, that many simply do not have the respect for firearms that they should. They have had zero exposure So enter the soccer mom that plunked down over 4k for a reaper....it gives me some concern. What else should we be concerned about as an unintended consequence?

Why is discrimination bad? Because this is where it leads! Sen. Bye and Rep. Godfrey‘s proposals—which will be packaged as one bill—will seek to: •Prohibit the sale and possession of any rifle, shotgun or pistol magazine with a capacity of more than 10 rounds; •Expand the definition of an ‘assault weapon’ under current Connecticut state law to apply to firearms which exhibit just one particular physical trait, as opposed to two (i.e., the presence of a pistol grip beneath the action of the weapon); •Require the registration with state law enforcement officials—and the biennial registration renewal—of all firearms by model and serial number; •Institute a 50-percent sales tax on the sale of ammunition and firearms magazines; •Require a permit to purchase ammunition; •Prohibit the online purchase of ammunition; •Prohibit the purchase of ammunition in Connecticut by anyone who is not legally authorized to possess a firearm in Connecticut; •Prohibit the storage of firearms and ammunition in a manner that allows access by persons under age 18

Impact is not the point, targeting a specific type of gun owner is. Its discrimination. So I will vote with my wallet to punish those that discriminate against me.

The problem is emotion vs logic. It is 100X harder to undo the emotional argument put forth by the antis with a logical argument. They appeal to the emotional reaction. Trying to get logic through to someone that is now emotional entangled....pretty tall order.

Depends on the stock, some stocks area PITA depending what position you want.

I do BUT time on the machines is booked SOLID for quite a while. On top of that, a lot of people do not understand the costs for programing and setup for whatever you whish to make. With those things in mind if you want to PM me with what you have in mind feel free.

"When exactly do you think we fell into grave distress after changing the founders original design?" When bankers gained control of the country along with lawyers gaining control of the govt. When politician became a profession instead of a person doing his duty. When the govt became self serving and protective of its profit centers. When the voices of a loud minority started changing the rules for the silent majority that prefers to be left alone. Id continue but...I think the pointis made.

Its nice in theory. And I am not a doom and gloomer but...I have been at this a pretty long time and I have never seen such a ground swell! It concerns me that those perpetrating the "feint" might start to get the idea they can really do it this time. Blind to the fact that the entire god damn internet beeing sold out of AR's and Ammo is the voice of a silent majority over the loud, boisterously calouse minority voice of the gun grabbers.

It doesnt matter if its real or imagined, the frenzy is on! The amount of sales behind the scenes has been staggering. This is a real pickle for manufacturers. No one wants to add 200k machines to the shop floor only to have a potential piece of knee jerk legislation drop the floor out from under everyone.

Dicks has turned the corner Im afraid. They earned me as a customer way back when when they stood up to protestors for selling ammo. Obviously they have been infiltrated at the corp level so I sent in my email to customer service informing them to remove me from everything, cancel everything and never contact me again and an explanation of why. "Due to Dick’s enacting a policy to remove sporting rifles from its sales floors due to the act of a criminal, I can no longer support Dick’s as a customer. If you were to follow this logic, I think you would need to remove many more items you sell like knives, machetes, cross bows, gas cans etc etc. I was wondering when you will remove baseball bats from your sales floor since these are involved in criminal murders many times over those involving firearms? It will always escape me how inanimate objects and those that did not commit the crime will have their rights infringed upon. I guess the immigrant Korean shop owners that protected their life and property during the LA riots with AR15’s really should not have been able to protect themselves according to Dick’s policy….. Please be sure to remove me from mailing lists, email lists, rewards programs etc etc. Good by for ever,"

HT, thank you for that!

I suspect that the only way to have freedom, is going to be to join the ranks of the criminal. Lawfull citizen and freedom are quickly becoming impossible to coexist. Perhaps this is why no free society can make it through its evolution and remain free. It may be doomed to always return to a Monarchy, royalty, dictatorship as the sheeple trade freedom for false security as they are manipulated by the powers that be.

Scrap, if directed at me I think you might have missed the deliberate seperation between the 2 short answers to you and my general statement derived from having answered these questions 10,000 times. Not directed at anyone in particuler. OK well mabe mag 1 cuz hes a wanker

The Street Bob will likely get some V&H pipes this winter along with Fuel mgmnt etc etc.

"Are we differing because I am looking at the Hunting stock choice and you are talking about the Tactical Stock choices " YES Scrap, its only a smarter deal to go with the AICS if it fits you well. A lot of people have trouble getting behind one. For me, the McMillan/Manners stocks are more comfortable BUT I get a very consistant lock up on the AI products so Im good with it. And now for my general position on the matter... McMillan sells stocks. They sure arent going to say it is required. But the question becomes, if your not going to bed it, why bother at all? The point of the pursuit is not to look tacticool. It is to improve consistancy which is a major part of precision shooting. So take a Remington 700 PSS for example. You ditch the HS precision stock and toss it in a McMillan without bedding. All you changed is the appearance. You are not likely to improve the accuracy of the rifle. Hey if you want bragging rights and the ooh ahhh factor when you open the safe for your friends, by all means, slap whatever blows your skirt up on it. But if you want performance from the investment, it needs to be bedded. If you would like a simple verification of what Im saying, find me a custom rifle builder that will give an accuracy guaruntee on one of their rifles in an unbedded Manners or McMillan. Go look on FN's website. Look at the price of the reguler FN SPR. Then look at the price of the FN SPR A3G. The G is the FBI contract spec rifle, it is bedded by GA Precision.

All my precision rigs have been north of 16lbs. I dont think there is much difference. 16 is on the fairly light side.

Here it is. http://njgunforums.com/forum/index.php?/topic/41790-aics-15-black-remington-700-sa-chassis/page__fromsearch__1

There was an AICS for sale on this forum recently..... It is heavy, no doubt about it. You will likely be about a 16lb rifle with glass.

I have to get out the door so Ill answer in more detail later but, an AICS is a chassis system that does NOT require bedding. A McBros stock, to get the desired effect of going with a custom stock, does in my opinion.