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Funny I think I've seen pants a little like that before. Never seen the full digs, though.

Has anybody in NJ ever been arrested for simply transporting an unloaded handgun to a borther's house to show them a new purchase over lunch? Not sure how one would try to discern such specific events from incomplete media reports or legal records.

IPSC needs to change the "A" zone so the bottom starts where they have the letter "A."

I don't know about that. I thought the question was very reasonable and was quite surprised by the 'Why do you need a gun?' responses. I carry a gun every day, all the time. Otherwise, it's useless for me to own in the first place. So I do the same thing he was asking about in the original post when I have to travel through places where I can't carry.

Perhaps. But you can't see the reactors in those pics. Even though the structures are labeled "Reactor No.X" on the pics.

I'm pretty sure they meant Bristol Township, PA (not NJ). In which case it would be a License to Carry Firearms. Given to anybody with a pulse willing to drop by the Bucks County Sheriff's office, takes about 15 minutes.

Did you confirm for sure what the Arabic says on that thing before you bought it?

Read it again, Harry. He said because of the laws in PA (turns out it was a typo on his part). Unless he editted his post since then.

Have you tried contacting local state prisons?

I THOUGHT that was what you meant LOL The PA business thing - if it turns out to be true, please let us know. I don't think it matters much. Just gets you the 1000 foot federal school zone law. That's important, don't get me wrong, but everyone seems to think it's something that doesn't come up except in the case of a crime. Hey, if I worked in a state routinely I would try to get their permit for that reason. But, as it is, it's not something I worry about when in other states. I don't plan my routes around school zones or anything, that would be a defacto ban on CC reciprocity in some places. I may be wrong, I may be the fool, but that's how I roll. I certainly wouldn't knowingly drive by a school out of state.

Was it the same guy that told you PA law requires a good reason to CC in PA on a FL license?

Really? You sure about that?

I understood your question. I routinely travel to WV through MD. I do just what you described. Pull off the highway before the MD border and dissarm and pack up. Drive 12 miles or whatever, pull into the WV Welcome Center, park in the spots just off the highway (far from the building), reload and rearm. On the way back to PA, same thing. Dissarm and pack in WV, pull into the welcome center in PA (right in front of the building), and hope to scare the crap out of some people from DE while arming back up. (actually DE people are pretty firearm familiar). Only thing is, if you are leaving a gun-unfriendly state, not sure how your travel in that state is considered. What are you talking about? With a FL license you can carry in PA any place, open or concealed, for any reason or no reason at all. Except court facilities (they have gun lockers for you), possibly school property (plus the federal 1000 foot school zone since you don't have a license from the state the school is in), detention facilities, casinos (by regulation, not law) and federal government buildings (fed law). Plus I think you have to conceal carry in state parks or something. Doublecheck the list yourself before coming to PA. But you definitely don't need a reason or justification to carry in PA if you are carrying under a license or permit that PA recognizes.

This is the other consideration, false alarms. Where do you draw the line to barricade and call 911? When you hear a crash and the dog starts barking and growling uncontrollably? I used to routinely hear stuff in my house that made me think somebody had broken in or was in the process. But, nothing followed for several minutes. Am I going to call 911 every time? Probably not a good idea. Am I going to stay awake all night and lie in wait? Great idea, but not very practical. Am I going to go back to sleep? Risk is small at this point, but could turn out to be a very bad idea. So, I clear the house and make sure it's secure. So, finally I just wired up my house, my yard, and my property lines with various systems.

Check it for radiation. (That's a joke)

Seems the war is going the other way everywhere else. But, I do see your point - As goes New Jersey, so goes... Nobody else.

Talk about surrender. Jeeze. Rename them Property of US Government.

Lage Manufacturing is the place I bought my 750 rpm MAX-11 upper from. I'm explaining that because he's probably less known in NJ since he doesn't make a single thing people are allowed to own in NJ. If you are into the "Alien" movie series, you need to check this out: http://www.max-11.com/TopSecret.html It was supposed to go into limitted production at what I consider an unreasonably high price tag - for collectors and officianados only. Even though it never went into production I think you might be able to get one if you know somebody. And if you don't live in NJ.

I think you actually meant the "legal thing." The right thing would be to load the wife's gun, stick it in a Serpa on your hip, and drive to the range. Unfortunately, that is highly illegal in NJ. But I certainly don't see any problems with integrity in that scenario.

I'm going to get one of these eventually. Problem is, Explosive Destructive Devices are restricted in PA. Highest we can go in a projectile is the .50 BMG High Explosive Armor Piercing Incendiary, such as the Raufoss. At least we have Tannerite and propane bottles .

Damn straight. I hope it aint as bad as it looks. Because it looks like it's going to be a heck of a lot worse than it looks. It looks like they got F'd-up worse than all of the fire bombings and nukes of WWII. But, back then they had (guess) 10x less people and most of their **** was made out of wood. In recent decades they've put together energy production, utilities, food distribution, and mass transit to support a gazzilion people. Not to mention they are a major economic player on the world stage and a major world power. And already in serious debt. I don't know how bad it is or is not. But it looks like crap on my TV, and keep in mind, we have so many more people packed into our countries now that any complete failure in the system will result in massive loss of life. It's like California. Without the engineering improvements (water), most people would leave or be dead in 6 months. And the desert would reclaim much of the state in a couple years.

BTW, sorry about the "reading comprehension" insults. I appologize. I just get tired of defending myself when I say US domestic policy regarding the policing agencies is completely out of hand and then get predictably piled on and accused of being anti-cop.

No, it's not. This is the THIRD post in this thread that I will use to say they should have rifles. It's simply a reading comprehension problem you have. I said ONE time that police should consider their lives worth less than a normal, unsworn citizen. Which part of "protect and serve" do you not understand? And that such gallantry would result in much more massive support (and obviously cooperation) from the people they PROTECT AND SERVE. The militarization of police and having them kick in doors and shoot people by accident or by protocol is DEFINTELY worth far less than the life of one cop. How many violations of The Constitution and how many dead bodies of innocent people do YOU believe is worth the life of one cop? This is not the simple cost of doing business. We live in America. Or, at least, we used to. You're talking to a guy that worked as a target for a living when I had the ability to kill any potential threat around me. My life was less important because of my power. I must show honor and restraint at all times, and unnecessarily risk my life to protect people who PROBABLY are going to try to kill me, something most cops don't have to deal with. It may be very inflammatory for me to say this, but my life is worth less than most Patrolmans' lives, let alone the lives of non-sworn ordinary citizens. With regard to my decisions and actions. Sorry to inflame you by reducing the value of my life below both the value of cops and the value of normal people. Anyway, fine. You think I hate cops. There are people that DO hate cops. They are called "criminals." I don't hate cops. I think every American should be trying to get the police back to doing their jobs.

You were correct. But you can't transport a handgun in a vehicle without some sort of license unless you are going to and from places similar to NJ. Even locked up in your trunk. Regarding Philly, Philly is a City of the First Class. The only one in the Commonwealth. As such, transporting ANY firearm (even rifles) is pretty close to the rules of possessing a handgun in NJ. Unless you have LTCF. Or LTC/Permit from a reciprocal state. Which the Philly cops don't want to recognize now, even though they won't make a charge actually stick. They can still take your **** (illegally) and probably never give it back unless you pay more than it's worth and wait a long time.