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I thought modern smokeless powder was nitrocellulose and nitroglycerin. Those are the explosive ingredients of plastic dynamites. The relative fractions may be off. But a bomber would not WANT dynamite on his luggage. So there would be only trace quantities (a few micrograms). The bomber would intentionally put smokeless powder on his luggage, so there would be much more (several milligrams). No longer would there be a distinguishable difference in the relative fractions. And you are telling me (I think?) that detections of nitrocellulose and nitroglycerin are qualified as not a threat by the presence of "taggants," which I did not even know where used in smokeless powder until yesterday. Am I missing something? And are taggants in use? I thought the idea died in the early 90s. Thanks. taggants ARE in use in all commercial explosives produced. I thought you were suggesting taggants were used in smokeless powder, my mistake. If they were used in smokeless powder, that would explain with smokeless powder does not cause alarm during detection. If they are NOT used in smokeless powder, then smokeless powder (containing GTN and nitrocellulose) could mask certain dynamites made by terrorists - which are not commercial explosives and contain no taggants. Actually, either way. Nitrocellulose is nitrated cellulose and does not contain nitroglycerin. Nitroglycerin may be added to many nitrocellulose products. Plastic dynamites use whatever binder the terrorist chooses when he makes them, many of which could be ubiquitous in even consumer products. Understood! I'm sure they are sufficiently sensitive. I doubt they could be sufficiently discriminatory if large amounts of smokeless power (milligrams, mostly GTN and nitrocellulose) were used to mask trace residues of improvised plastic dynamites (micrograms of residue, GTN and nitrocellulose).

My buddy has 50 BMG rifle. Haven't shot it yet, but will in a couple weeks. >>.45-70

I've read a few of them and like them Need to start keeping an eye out for one, it's been years.

9mm vs. .45 - check. 5.56 vs. 7.62x39 - check. But this is honestly the first time I've seen a 5.56 vs. 9mm caliber war

You know what? I just realized one of my friends (range only) brought one of those Berettas to the range. I didn't get a good look at it and never shot it. Only one I've ever seen. He's a Beretta freak and has all kinds of custom modded handguns. I'll have to try it next time I see him.

I thought modern smokeless powder was nitrocellulose and nitroglycerin. Those are the explosive ingredients of plastic dynamites. The relative fractions may be off. But a bomber would not WANT dynamite on his luggage. So there would be only trace quantities (a few micrograms). The bomber would intentionally put smokeless powder on his luggage, so there would be much more (several milligrams). No longer would there be a distinguishable difference in the relative fractions. And you are telling me (I think?) that detections of nitrocellulose and nitroglycerin are qualified as not a threat by the presence of "taggants," which I did not even know where used in smokeless powder until yesterday. Am I missing something? And are taggants in use? I thought the idea died in the early 90s. Thanks.

There are still highschool rifle teams in PA with ranges at the school. But they are closing day by day. When I was in highschool in NJ during the 80s people brought their shotguns to school during hunting season. I'm not sure it was allowed but it was probably during the transition period where everybody had done it in years past so nobody cared.

Hi Pizza Bob! Recognize you from PAFOA. Valley Forge is too far from me. I'm lucky that we have a number of good gun shows in the Lehigh Valley area. Did anybody go to SAR East last year in York, PA? Talk about hardware!

They have stuff in the showroom that is not Jersey Legal. "For out of state sales". I'm not sure if they can do the transfer to a out of state resident in person or they need to ship it. They have a TON of stuff that they can't sell to Jersey Residents. I don't know what the process would be to sell it to a non-NJ owner but last time there we were talking about some of the cool stuff they have that we can't buy I'm pretty sure the process would be they would send it to my FFL and I would pick it up there. If it was a firearm.

Whoah! I'm not a fan of semi subguns. But I want to try one of these. Preferably in .45. Nice gun!

Oh no, your neighbor said the "T" word? (Texas). Make sure you tell him carry is more frequent in PA. Wouldn't be surprised if Delaware ranks, too. And OC is legal in both states, but not in Texas.

I almost bought something from those guys once. I remember thinking what I wanted to buy was illegal in NJ. Even though I didn't live in NJ, thought it was strange. Not accusing them of anything, just my recollection, and I could be wrong. One of my friends bought kits there and likes the owner. Guess that shows what we know. Thanks for the heads-up.

I focused on the OR part because I'm lazy and didn't feel like spending a bunch of time looking up CCW and OC stats online. So, you may be right about CCW and OC in Texas... didn't check... don't know. But, it would appear (at least to the "braintrust" at Brady, that TX has a couple less guns laws. Yeah, fair enough. Of course it's just their silly point system, but you made your point The real question is why I brought it up. As I've said, people in NJ (present company excluded) think nobody carries guns except in, what I hear most often, "Texas." I always say we need to convince our good citizens of NJ that guns are NORMAL, and common, not good or bad. It's a real eye opener for them. And, certainly, we got a much higher frequency of carry in a couple nearby states than the mythical "Texas." The funny thing was I mentioned it in this thread and had an actual NJ firearms enthusiast confront me for evidence So I guess the culture of myth runs deeper in NJ than I thought

We have to record them also, there is paperwork that must be forwarded to the NJSP, as well as the issuing authority within 6 days of the transaction. Yeah, but I can't even do it FTF (unless I meet the exceptions above). Gotta be at FFL or Sheriff.

Yeah, I remember. If I wake up tomorrow and want a pistol I go to a gun shop and buy one. Walk out in 5 minutes, load it, holster, throw on the passenger seat (I'm already carrying two). ( I probably wouldn't bother to load it, that was for dramatic effect)

LOL, are you kidding? I think I'll take the fact that more people carry in PA and OC is not a crime in PA. You want to see people walking around with guns on their hips, don't go to Texas. There are no state restrictions on carry in PA, Except: - Must conceal in State Parks (can't OC in Texas anyway) - Can't carry in court (can't in TX either). But, BY LAW, every single court facility in the Commonwealth of PA is required to maintain gun lockers and check guns of civilians. I've done it several times. - K-12 government schools - can only carry for lawful purpose (don't ask) I OC in both my bank branches. I OC in bars. I OC at the UPS depot. I OC everywhere I go. The only time I conceal is when I go in State Parks (it's actually a game commission reg), inside police stations, and hospitals/Dr offices (personal preference on last two). If you ever see me, anywhere anytime, you will see one of my firearms. You will never see anything close to that in TX.

In state, residents can do face to face long guns, and pistols (with permits). Holy cow. We can't do pistols FTF in PA. Unless it is husband/wife, or down the line from grandparent/parent to kid (no records whatsoever). Plus anybody with LTCF can borrow a pistol from anyone (LTCF or not, does not matter). We can do FTF for long guns, machineguns, and suppressors. None of which require any state records or notifications, just cash on barrel. Unless you go the route where you want Sheriff signature for NFA forms. The fact that we have to record pistol transfers is one of the bad points of PA law. The other is that you can't transport a pistol in a car except to specific locations (similar to NJ) unless you have LTCF or a carry license from ANY state (reciprocity or not). Of course, everyone has LTCF so it doesn't matter much. But it's still a little draconian. I think they are going to do away with the vehicle transport thing soon. But the FTF pistol sales restrictions are probably going to be around for quite some time.

We shoot it all the time in PA. Also tracers and incendiary ammo. Some of the incendiary ammo makes a pretty big bang. No fires. Out of the three, tracers are the worst risk for fires. Far worse than tannerite. They are the only ones that burn outside of where you aim them. Shoot a lot of tracers like I do and you come to figure out how many of your bullets leave the range. We only shoot/use any of this stuff when it's wet. Use common sense and always consider the worst that could happen before you get started.

Oh, there aint nothing strange about that. Good job! We put out good spreads at our range meets in PA. But, yeah, usually don't see that when just a couple people show up. I'll shoot with you guys anytime, that's for sure!

I never knew FTF longun sales were legal in NJ. Cool.

Stats please. Are you lazy? (just kidding) I'll meet you half way: http://forum.pafoa.org/general-2/41747- ... ounty.html One out of fourteen Pennsylvanians age 21 or older has LTCF. And:

I grew up in Cherry Hill and Mt. Laurel. Fun times!

It's a forum, I'll chime in where I want. Everything posted here concerns me. Be sure to let me know when there is a privileged discussion that does not concern me. I did overlook your earlier post, so my mistake. And, I wasn't really responding to you, even thought I quoted you. I saw a tone in this thread that I wanted to respond to and just picked your quote out of opportunity. Second mistake. Sorry for my rather indiscriminate interjection. Now I feel like I was acting contemptuous and that makes me feel bad. I was a few down and sometimes that makes me shoot from the hip a bit, not that it's an excuse. Taggants? Really? Another thing I've learned today. I though they never made it to the market (back in the 80s 90s). I'd like to hear about that, please (sincerely). Seems that would mean a little smokeless powder on your articles would negate detections of plastic dynamites. Not a good system. If true at all.

PA has better gun laws (for the most part) and more prolific carry than Texas. "Texas" is sort of an NJ fable. Look to Delaware, Vermont, VA, Pennsylvania, Maine, and other NE states before traveling the country for a metaphor. On the East Coast, only NJ, MD, and NY suck. NJ being the worst. Mass sucks a little bit (AWB). On the contrary, Mass sucks alot bit. We have a list of prohibited firearms, they have a list of permitted firearms. I'm sure that list is updated on a regular basis. :roll: You're right. I meant, "Texas," not PA. :roll: Did you miss the larger point? Mass does issue carry permits 10,000x more often than NJ. And you can own MGs.

Thanks! The machinegun is an SWD "M-11/nine," informally referred to as "MAC-11" as you said, although not made by MAC. The upper receiver is a MAX-11 by Richard Lage. This gun fires at 750 rpm, which is really nice. Bursts come out fast enough if you need a couple rounds at once but ammo does not run out for a couple seconds if you want to engage more than one target without letting go of the trigger. My last time out at the coal pits my buddy set up 10 soup cans to shoot with his pistol. For whatever reason (I forget) I said I was going to shoot a few of his soup cans. I think I had shot all my targets and was switching to suppressed to show off to some people how quiet it was, if I remember correctly. I did what came natural (destroy all targets) and put holes in all of his soup cans and chased a couple down the range with only one trigger squeeze and only 32 rounds. I then apologized that I didn't think I was going to shoot ALL of them but he just laughed. I went out and set them back up when the range went cold. For all you "FA can't hit anything" people, I hit more small targets in 1.5 seconds (excluding chasing the cans after hit) than you can hit in 7 seconds. Albeit with more ammo expended.