Jon

The news only reports the accidental shootings of Police. Civilian accidents are much, much, much more frequent.

I've done both without noticing any change in flavor.

You know I'm just messin with ya, bud. Correct, just saying they exist, and I've seen em(at a range in PA). Very very cool, and impossible to tell that it's anything other than a regular AR unless you see where it shoots, or the extracted shell.

12ga won't fit in the magwell. They do make a .410 upper for those poor schlubs that think 4.10 is useful for anything more than killing rats.

Traditions Tracker 209 I got this rifle just to add days that I could hunt, and it's now my favorite hunting weapon.

Is it 100% venison, or does it have pork mixed in? I normally just take my ground + poork and make it into burgers without adding anything.

To my knowledge, yes. I have seen those insta-blind things that attach to a camp chair in the woods. I'm sure they help, but use care on public land.

To improve your chances, do some scouting in the off-season, and look for matted down trails through the trees, indicating a popular path for the deer. Also, try and find clover beds, or other grazing areas that they may be eating. Once you have a general area that you want to sit, find a place within 100yds that's uphill and downwind, and set up a chair. i like to set my chair up in front of/and against a tree, and in the shade. I never wear camo, always brush pants and a blaze orange vest. NJ Law requires you to wear a solid orange hat, or 100sq inches of orange. Personally, having seen some of the numbnuts that are out hunting in this state, I prefer to have 100sq inches of orange from every direction, AND a solid orange hat.

The last time I took my .22mag out to the 100yd range to see how well it could shoot the cheapo fiocchi ammo that I had, resulted in more of a "pattern" than a "group". I decided I needed to get some new ammo, and find out if the rifle was crap, or if it was just the ammo. The Marlin 925 is all stock, with a bipod, and Bushnell Rimfire scope package. I started off with a clean gun, and fired 5 rounds of each brand of ammo. After each 5-shot group, I let the barrel cool for 5min, and ran a boresnake through it. Here are the results: Fiocchi 40gr JHP: Remington 40gr JHP: CCI HP-V 30gr JHP: Hornady V-Max 30gr polymer tip: The Hornady ammo shot very, very well, and would have been a 5/8" group if I hadn't shanked the one shot. A second group of the Hornady, measuring 1". All in all, I feel the rifle/ammo combo is capable of sub-moa, which is pretty impressive for such a cheap gun.

X2 on the Clinton WMA. There is no need to use a blind, or even a stand when hunting deer in NJ. Out of all the deer that I have shot in this state, I was in a stand for only one of them. Every other time I set up on a hill overlooking a well-worn deer path, or on the edge of a field. There are tons of both @ the Clinton WMA.

Ever fired one? Nothing beats the BOOM, followed by a mushroom cloud, and when it finally clears you have a deer laying in front of you.

I don't see any reason why not... just stick to 2 3/4" shells(as i assume that's what it's chambered in).

Also, just realized you're an SCFGPA member. Shoot me a message with your schedule for the next couple days. I need to sight in my USH with it's new ammo down in the tunnels, and you're more than welcome to fire a few shots through it.

Any form of adjustable sights are required when using slugs. Basically, no bead sights. Scopes are A-OK.

I'm 5'10/170, and usually able to shoot up to 15-20 hunting slugs @ the range before I'm done. Keep in mind that's with just a t-shirt on. In the woods you'll have a heavy jacket, or at least several layers of clothing. Also, when the adrenaline starts pumping you won't feel the shot, nor will you hear it. Out of all the times I've fired slugs in the woods, not once have my ears rung, or did I ever feel any pain from the shot.

To my knowledge deer hunting is not permitted there. Waterfowel hunting is permitted only from a boat. Clinton WMA is legal for deer hunting, though.

Meh, I did some private property hunting this year, and switched between the slug gun and scattergun throughout the day. Lots of fun, but something I'm only going to do if I strike out on public land.

I carried buckshot a few days as well, didn't see squat while I had it with me though.

Yahtzee!

I was waiting for your response. In reference to the 20ga vs 12ga, a Federal 5/8oz 20ga slug moves at 1900fps and has 2190ft-lbs of energy. A Federal 3/4oz 12ga slug moves at the same speed, but hits with 2605ft-lbs of energy. Being they shoot at the same speed, the tiny difference in bullet coefficient will change the trajectory by less than the expected precision of the gun. As for the guy I shoot with, I have personally seen him drop a dozen deer, all one shot kills, and missed only once. Half those deer were 150yds+. Can I do that? Hell no, but he can and does.

Other members have filed for the exemption, and I believe most were approved in about 2-3 weeks.

No good... no good at all.

I'll leave it here for now. If you can handle the recoil of a 12ga, get a 12ga. Even with slugs, a 12ga offers better trajectory than the 20ga, and packs a much bigger punch. Single shot and bolt action guns are typically the most accurate, and personally I own an H&R USH in 12ga. That gun replaced my 870 w/ rifled bbl. I have fired at a deer in a small herd before, and had time to rack the slide and watch the deer drop through my scope(15-20 seconds) and by the time I put the gun down, the other deer in the herd were still dancing around, not sure where to run. Buckshot is also a very viable option for NJ, and most shotguns are capable of a deer-killing pattern out to 50-60yds. The location you intend to hunt should be the deciding factor between slugs/buckshot. The choice between a pump/semi and the single shot would also depend on the distance you plan on shooting. One of the guys I hunt with routinely kills deer out past 200yds with his USH. If you're comfortable staying at 100yds and closer, whatever you feel most comfortable shooting will do.

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Maks - if you're planning on buying a safe I can get you the info for the moving company that moved mine into my basement. I was quite pleased with them.