So I decided to make the closet in my room into a safe. Its pretty much complete, I just need to add the new heavy duty doors and put my cloths back. Tell me what you think. It was cheap to do too. Just a few peg boards a hook kit some cutting and your good to go.

 

Did you have to cut any barrels to make them fit?

how are the firearms secured when you are not home... :?

Nice gun closet, but I'm slightly confused how that acts as a safe. :?:

I'm assuming you would be replacing the wooden doors with the heavy duty door you speak of?

To amuse you though, what are you going to do with the hinges for those heavy doors? What type of material are the walls next to the heavy duty doors?

I've never busted through a wall to access whatever was behind a heavy duty door ( ), but I have helped tear down generic walls when I was doing some home improvement work. I don't know what the statistics are for the amount of time a home invasion takes, and maybe having a heavy duty door would be enough of a deterrent-- but it seems like it would also be a door begging to be brought down by the bad guys.

Then of course I don't know what your plans are and if you're retaining some information for the sake of OPSEC! 8-)

how are the firearms secured when you are not home... :?

 

 

 

The door to my room is a metal door with a cross bolt, It has no handle on the outside and you have to have a key to open it. The wooden doors will be gone tomorrow and stronger doors will be put in. My father will be doing the doors because he has way more experiences in these things and have done them before. So I am sure the hinges he picked up will do the job. I am also planning on adding a small mesh gate that will go across the back and also open with a key. The guns will not be in there until everything is in place. I just put them up to see how they would look and to show you guys.until its completely finished the firearms stay in my safe. So that is how the guns are secure when I am not home, And if you fail to see how it acts as a safe then fine. Lets call it a gun closet.

how are the firearms secured when you are not home... :?

 

 

 

The door to my room is a metal door with a cross bolt, It has no handle on the outside and you have to have a key to open it. The wooden doors will be gone tomorrow and stronger doors will be put in. I am also planning on adding a small mesh gate that will go across the back and also open with a key. The guns will not be in there until everything is in place. I just put them up to see how they would look and to show you guys. So that is how the guns are secure when I am not home.

 

 

no offense or anything.. but as cool as it is i would not trust it to secure firearms... firearms that if stolen by the wrong people could cost lives and further hurt the argument of responsible gun ownership... i nice heavy duty safe would fit in there nicely..

It's not about the hinges, but what the hinges latch onto. You could put gigantic heavy duty steel hinges, but if they're just screwed into the 2x4 door frame or sheet rock that any goon could just bust with a hammer, I wouldn't trust it.

 

Also, what are the walls filled with and what is on the other side of them? You could make a gigantic door but once again, if someone could just pound through a regular sheetrock wall and pull the guns out the back or sides. It will be very obvious to an intruder that something valuable is behind those doors. That right side wall looks like it can just be smashed through and grab the guns.

 

It's a cool project you made and I hate to knock it, but I would not consider that secure enough to secure my firearms. But, that's your decision not mine.

 

No safe is impervious to any sort of attack, of course. But my thing is this - if it can be opened or accessed with basic hand tools, I would not trust it.

in looking at it again are the hooks all bare metal? if so i dont think id want to be picking up and putting down firearms onto a metal hook.. sure you can be careful but its that much more likely to scratch or wear the finish..

I'm sorry, not to get defensive or anything but I just don't see the problem you see. The room itself is already extremely difficult to get into without a key. Then the doors will be replaced. I don't know the specifics of the doors but the firearms will not stay in there until we are satisfied on how secure they are. On top of that a locking gate with key will go across, And as for as whats on the other side. Another wall is on the other side. I guess I can see the issue with someone cutting through both walls and getting whats on the other side. Also there just peg hooks. There very smooth, The guns sit very nicely on them. I guess I can add some rubber hose on each peg. Just to repeat, it isn't finished.

I think its a pretty neat project, and I also mean no offense when I critique your design. If anything, we're scrutinizing it because we want you to see all the different angles so you don't miss something crucial.

I still stand by my initial wall comment as the major issue. I've been drawing up some plans for a room like what you're doing-- and I was considering lining the inside with a cinder block wall to help reinforce it to address that issue I had brought up.

Either way, good luck, mate-- let us know how it works out in the end.

thanks bbk.

Wait, everybody doesn't leave there guns laying on their bed???

Lotta dudes here hating on you Jeremy, that looks hot son!

Give us a detailed picture tour of all the safety barriers then the doubters will leave you alone. Very nice idea I must say, If I get any more guns I will have to find a larger space, as the Heavy Duty Cabelas safe is too small now.

 

Can't wait to see the finished project. :banana-gotpics: :text-worthless: :text-worthless:

jermz1987- Add some kind of alarm and you're set, wired into a central station. Secrecy is one of your best tools. I have serious questions about folks talking about the amount of firearms they own and showing their security on the net. Me I only own a pen knife and I have that child proofed.

Wait, everybody doesn't leave there guns laying on their bed???

 

I sleep in my bed, my guns stay on the couch.

in looking at it again are the hooks all bare metal? if so i dont think id want to be picking up and putting down firearms onto a metal hook.. sure you can be careful but its that much more likely to scratch or wear the finish..

 

 

http://www.plastidip.com/home_solutions/Plasti_Dip

 

Available at home depot for $7

I'd like to know the specifics on the doors. It's usually kind of hard to replace bi-fold's with regular doors due to space constraints.

Yeah coldsoilderjoint I actually picked some of that up today. Not sure how hes doing the doors, but ill let you know when its done. I think it will be fine, Ill send ya pics when I am done CSJ. I Don't want to post pics. Ill take the advice given and not post the security.

maybe I am just different... i house all of my firearms in a huge 400+ lb fireproof safe.. and i am STILL worried sometimes.. the thought of losing my firearms PERIOD, and even worse losing them and having them used by a criminal, is something that would eat away me....

It is simply not a safe. I would be willing to place a bet that any "door" you put there outside of an actual vault door, I could get past in 15 minutes or less. I know a few people that poured steel renforced concrete rooms in their basements and used a vault door like these.

 

http://www.sportsmansteelsafes.com/defender.htm

maybe I am just different... i house all of my firearms in a huge 400+ lb fireproof safe.. and i am STILL worried sometimes.. the thought of losing my firearms PERIOD, and even worse losing them and having them used by a criminal, is something that would eat away me....

 

400 lbs is lightweight.

maybe I am just different... i house all of my firearms in a huge 400+ lb fireproof safe.. and i am STILL worried sometimes.. the thought of losing my firearms PERIOD, and even worse losing them and having them used by a criminal, is something that would eat away me....

 

400 lbs is lightweight.

 

 

 

it is on the second floor in an apartment so i didnt want to go too heavy.. getting it in was VERY hard due to annoying angles and shit.. getting it out.. undetected.. would honestly be next to impossible..

well Ill just agree to disagree. I don't think its unsafe. The room is secure enough, Ill just leave it at that.

any updated pics? dying to see the finished results. Really cool idea!

any updated pics? dying to see the finished results. Really cool idea!

 

 

Thanks jhs, unfortunately its not finished yet, when its done maybe ill share the results.

Send me a PM when you're done, jermz, if you're more comfortable with that approach (I preach OPSEC myself). I do want to make it a project myself for the summer, and I'd be interested in how it all comes together in the end.

But here's a non-OPSEC question, for the most part, how much space do you have on the inside?

 

Shane, thanks for sharing that link. If I had the means and the finances (and a suitable location), I'd love to have one of those doors. Hopefully vault doors will still be reasonably priced and available once I become a home owner myself

To me, its all a balancing equation.

 

Do you want security tighter than fort knox? Well, better hire an armed security team like blackwater to protect your stuff.

 

Of course pretty much none of us could afford that, so do you want to protect from a smash and grab?

 

Burgular with tools?

 

Etc, it all depends on the person.

 

Anything we realistically could afford would be able to be breached by a determined intruder with a plan and the right tools.

Cold, it really amounts to time. How much time would a thief take to get in. How much time is it fire rated for. The last safe I looked at had a glass plate in it that would break if drilled locking the safe. Some "safes are poorly made. You could drill a small hole in the side and push with a rod and it would push the locking bolts backwards unlocking the safe Another one you could litterally smack the knob off with a hammer and centr punch it with a big screwdriver and it would open :shock: To me the fire rating is a big part of the protection of a safe.

 

Jermz, brother I would suggest that you go for the hidden room vs secure room. I have yet to be defeated by any residential or commercial grade door. No Im not a closet theif LOL.

 

http://www.hiddendoors.net/