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Anybody got any links? I fear what google might be ready to show me. :ph34r:

Well, that's absolute crap. I just checked the site again and they raised the price $200 since I was last on like four hours ago. What the hell man? I can't catch a break.

In that case, it would also be losing the battle and another tick towards losing the war. Do you think those antigun ambitions will stay rooted in one place? Sure, there are bastions of freedom still remaining, but let's say a moderate gets elected and offers a small concession on our rights with the numbers to back it up. They'll agree or they won't fight back hard enough because it's not a MASSIVE blow to rights. Then the next and the next will come until the US is suddenly britain in terms of gun rights and self defense. Is there nothing worth fighting for?

In terms of Constitutionality, we either have unlimited rights or none at all. The idea that the system can remain in flux forever and sustain itself is laughable. At one point, one side or the other will take the high ground and those rights will start heading towards absolute freedom or absolute destruction. It's at that point that you'll have to ask yourself: Which is the greater evil, the people, or the government? An endless tug of war on the matter of the second amendment will prove fruitless in the long run. One side or the other will win, and then we'll have to live with what we have or restart the entire system, at which point the process will begin fresh once again. To quote a popular movie: This will be the sixth time we have destroyed it, and we have become exceedingly efficient at it.

Yeah, this. The mental health system needs a massive boost, but what they're suggesting is an invasion of privacy and meant as gun control rather than mental health reform. How about mental health checks and a home inspection for exercising your freedom of speech? Religion? How about before you get a fair trial?

Sweet. Do they make ten rounders for that?

I'm in. My brother might be coming as well, and I've got two other people who said they might be interested in hitching a ride with me.

Those are probably my two favorite arguments that I hear all the time. Tell them about this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girandoni_Air_Rifle They're usually floored when they hear that something similar to their "high-capacity assault weapons" existed back in the late 1700s.

I'm assuming that if it were to pass and eventually hit SCOTUS, we'd get another 5-4 split (provided all the current roster was still aboard), and the "4" would come up with some bs as to why the tax is constitutional, though they would likely rule the other way if you were to propose a tax on voting or the excercising of speech.

Wish we had more like him over here in NJ. There are a few, but one more wouldn't hurt.

"I swear to uphold the Constitution of the United States (until it becomes feasible to turn it into toilet paper)."

Another in the W column! I agree that they should kick out the bastards who drafted/sponsored this bill. They succumbed to emotion when they should have been dealing with facts.

Yep. Thankfully, more people are moving AWAY from televised and printed news. The internet is a goldmine of information, and it helps shed light on all the crap the media pulls. Just find interested people and educate them. Introduce new shooters to the world. If we all do that, we'll be better off in the future.

They should change their name to the No Fun Allowed Association.

Pfft. I did like 200 and then another 50 rounds on a Mosin my first time. ...Yeah, I could barely move that arm without screeching the next day. And my brother kept punching me in the sore spot. :thsmiley_deadhorse: (I'm the horse)

Complete part one, and they'll take care of the rest.

Oh boy. I'd hate to be that guy right now.

We do. That was a great speech.

They didn't account for the fact that most of us are stubborn and willing to play their stupid game.

Don't worry, in time it will become a hardened wall of muscle that not even lasers could penetrate. Also, what blksheep said.

Oh my god, if that's true that's absolutely hilarious. Cuomo dun goofed.

My entire family has been contemplating that move for a while now. Thinking either PA or Texas. The more I read that first post though, the more I think that they could not pass something like that without facing massive legislative retribution. It could collapse their entire permit system if suddenly a million people were unable to purchase firearms when they had the ability to do so the day before. Regardless, I think up and out of the state is the last best hope for people seeking freedom (and not just regarding firearms).

Actually, if they use that argument, tell them that Lewis and Clark were among many people of the Late 1700s to own a rifle capable of holding and shooting 20 shots in quick succession. Their brains nearly collapse inward upon hearing that. Also, cannons.

If any of those pass, we should IMMEDIATELY file a suit against this state. Can you imagine the amount of manpower and money they would have to allocate to reprocess EVERYONE? They could just say "Oh, well we don't have the time right now." and have the inspection service/mental check be allocated to one person two hours every week, resulting in pretty much a statewide confiscation/ban scheme.

Is anyone really surprised by this? We all know that's the end game. It's only the delusional who write off confiscation and disarmament as paranoia. While they might now get away with it, it's definitely on their minds, and don't think for a second that they wouldn't do it if they had a free pass.