siderman

Short answer- gun show loophole = private sale and all applicable state and federal laws apply. Long answer, see above posts.... However there is a new federal somewhat ambiguous law about private sales, that being how many sales does it take to make you a business/dealer which changes things a little bit for a seller.

Sounds pricey but other things come into the cost factor. Demo/disposal, maybe new footings because if its a total tear down the town may want a test hole dug to determine code, attatchment point to the house may need re-siding and flashing chances are the flashing isnt up to code anymore, railing very time consuming, maybe the estimates were a worse case scenario? Are there steps leading to the ground? But still get a few more prices anyway. I will say my 16' x 22' deck is just about 30 yrs old and I built the floor with STK SYP and still in very good shape but I have waterproofed it a few times. I also have other porch, deck areas in cedar and Trex. Cedar is very attractive but soft and I regret the Trex, gets scalding hot roasting in the summer sun.

Just a note on Nappen, he chairs the legal affairs committee at ANJRPC. I imagine he has a hand in what's going on.

Mr Schmutter's phone# is in my wallet somewhere as he is my go to lawyer should I ever need that kind of help. I've known about his 2A advocacy for yrs and his office is 5 mins from me. My fear now is he"ll be too busy to take my call lol.

back to the original topic...NJ will always have the option to make this or any ccw case go away if the opt to. Just grant the plaintiffs their ccw- done. No more court case. I love the angle of this case- selective granting of rights- but if the plaintifs are granted their license, its over. Or is it? ANJRPC has asked for what appears to be a line-up of more plaintiffs, those who have been denied perhaps in anticipation of just that? So. can NJ effectively keep this case (or any) from advancing buy paying off the applicants with ccw's? Another random thought....because i am not too familiar with ccw qualification isnt there a periodic range time shoot involved to maintain your ccw? If so how does the likes of a old hag like Loretta Weinburg do that? assuming she has a ccw.....

done & done. let it ride.

As soon as I figure out where the donation is best spent. I emailed ANJRPC since they are the ones filing suit and they offered their litigation fund. You (CNJFO) suggest your org of course. I also thought I saw a Go Fund Me link for it somewhere....

Well Hallelujah- look who showed up to there own party! Thankyou ANJRPC for stepping up. Lets hope this makes NJ squirm a bit and looking forward to their reaction! I'm gonna raise my glass to you tonight and hoping for many more lawsuits. I will honor my donation , just contacted them for the proper fund info. Technically they are....they are our official state NRA rep org.

I think that's a pc of denim stuck in there.

A pr of rubber mitts on top could have prevented it too but for me, no feet no go. I saw this exact scene happen on a job not my crew but GC's. Guy got banged up but ok however because the ladder had no feet just the squared frame that had rounded off from wear it gouged the shit out of a new cedar deck floor causing a big buck repair.

Crap, never even checked origin. Made in Vietnam but at least its not China.....still a great product. But they were a gift a few yrs back so not my fault lol.

keep it! Why hack up a good shooter? Go and spend your hedge fund money to tune it by all means or do what the rest of us do, lighten up the hammer & trigger springs slightly, do a little internal polishing and throw on a fo front sight. I love this gun so much lives in the drawer next to my bed.

Deluth is top shelf. I've got a few t shirts from them and actually care what happens to them lol. Others like Fruit of the loom etc are like tissue paper in comparison and are diposable after getting grease, paint, caulk etc on them.

the usual here, get together with neighbors . I eat steak chili and chomp away at the 6' hero, wash down with beer. all I need.

side note...my son was there in '11 too. Helmand P.

Hmmm, that and an inactive web page doesn't look good but time will tell. Maybe typical zoning hiccups.

Anyone got any updates on this Reloaderz (?) place in Wayne? I even checked their FB page but nada. What a shame that this place got an open arm welcome from the planning brd but Ramsey's got tarred and feathered.

lol, that guy is me. except for the gun names...usually have at least 4-5 guns and stay that many hrs or more. Only thing that stops me is my eyes getting tired. Or my lame shoulder.

hey man! you stole my post! J/K

keeping the unlawful part in is typical of NJ's practice of intimidation & confusion, always keeping the "what if" aspect out there.

Hold on there....there was no "emotional outburst" from me and the cynicism wasnt pointed at you or yer cornflakes. No screaming, cursing or lunatic rant. Just a sentiment that some here dont share the lovefest with the NRA (be it NRA, NRA/ILA, ANJRPC...) because of their lack of courtroom activism here. Have they yet to take the state to court over our 2A infringements? if they have please share maybe I've missed some lawsuits they initiated and the outcomes.....Part of the reason we are where we are is because NJ feels so emboldened because they havent been challenged in court. Having said that we are approaching a new dawn of gun banning and are very hopefull that the NRA decides to finally help, a few promising things have been said...and $ pledged. Am anxiously waiting to spend it. And I am not un-informed and know at least what the emails/notices from ANJRPC and the NRA tell their respective memberships and what I see elsewhere. I know about the Prop63 mag ban agenda (and the curve...) and saw the docket #- its out there in Not New Jersey. If you've got more issues with what I just said, oh well, go pour another bowl of cereal.

Yup, thats why I said show us the docket numbers....untill then it is talk.

Thats because they're never taken to court in the first place. No wonder the state feels so emboldened when it comes to their anti gun laws. Lets hope history changes real soon.

Appreciate your enthusiasm, hopefully it's because you know a lot more than us. But surely you can appreciate some of the cynicism here, NJ being a lost stepchild, even a poster child of the NRA for so long. We all want big changes and I'm pretty sure we all realize by now only lawsuits have a chance to make it happen. So when these proposed laws start making their way thru Trenton they need to have docket numbers following them. In fact here's a slogan for that- donations 4 dockets......until then its talk. I will right now pledge $200 to the first anti gun lawsuit against the state of NJ that affects the guns we currently own, just show me the docket #.

zero% is awesome. like paying cash but better because you get to spread it out over some yrs if you want and can put that $ to other uses in the mean time.