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article said there was a warrent.(but no due process..) but I still dont get why they needed to go after a 3rd partys property? father gets a temp RO on his daughter next thing they're taking the husbands guns?!...were the cops afraid the daughter would steal a gun and go after the dad? Thats like saying my wifes bro gets all pissy at my wife a files a RO- they take my guns??? I know he had some illegal guns but that was after the warrent...

So what happens when the investigating judge-should it actually come to that- drags their asses too? Remember thats part of the problem, collusion.

they've shipped plenty of ammo to me no prob.

makes you wonder was it an edited quote of some mis-informed cops or the authors embelishing?- The powerful semiautomatic pistol was loaded with illegal armor-piercing — a k a “cop killer” bullets, they said.

yup-what else do you expect when you pull over a purple Caddy lol

"Well, they have guns, but we have flowers," the father says. "But flowers don’t do anything," the boy argues. sooo close.....poor kid sees whats happening but only knows what daddy tells him. another lamb in the making.

go to this site and ask around, maybe that ammo is already red flagged or something, worth looking. http://7.62x54r.net/ anyway its a great informative forum. just dont mention your stock lol, dont like that stuff around there

On Monday, November 16, the Senate Law and Public Safety Committee passedS3249 in a vote of 3-2 along partisan lines, but not before gun rights leaders sparred with bill sponsor Senator Loretta Weinberg, at one point directly challenging her to pledge never again support or encourage a ban on conventional handguns (she tried, but just couldn't do it), and to convert legislator security details to the exclusive use of smart guns! While S3249 would roll back the ban on all conventional handguns from New Jersey's 2002 "smart gun" law, the bill is badly tainted because it swaps in a new mandate in its place forcing every New Jersey firearms dealer to stock and display a smart gun for sale - essentially an effort to compel market acceptance of the technology instead of letting the free market decide. The effort to coerce smart guns onto the market by bullying dealers suggests that politicians will be back with their ban on all conventional handguns soon after an artificial market for the new and unproven technology has been created. ANJRPC had asked the committee to amend the bill to remove the new mandate. Several anti-gun groups testified in person, along with several gun rights leaders, including ANJRPC Executive Director Scott Bach, Jake McGuigan of NSSF, Bob Viden, Patricia Blazer of NJSFSC, and Craig Dear. Darin Goens of NRA-ILA was out of state but supplied written testimony. The official state recording of the hearing is available here. Scroll to Monday, November 16 and click "listen." Testimony on S3249 begins at approximately the 16:00 mark. Scott Bach's testimony challenging Senator Weinberg to pledge to never again support or encourage a ban on conventional handguns (among other things) begins at approximately the 45:55 mark. For more background on the smart gun issue, please see this recent ANJRPC email alert on the subject. S3249 is being fast-tracked and will move to the full Senate quickly. PLEASE IMMEDIATELY CONTACT MEMBERS OF THE STATE SENATE AND TELL THEM TO: 1. Amend S3249 to remove the mandate on gun dealers; 2. Amend S3249 to require the exclusive use of smart guns for all State House and legislator security details; 3. Repeal the provision of the existing smart gun law preventing politicians and the government from being sued if mandated smart gun technology fails; and 4. Publicly pledge that they will never support or encourage a ban on conventional handguns in the future

You think reindeer food is cheap? and all those elves healthcare? times are tough.

doesnt a hg need to be loggged in if its an overnight visit? not sure, but if thats the case altho its not running the numbers it is an official recognition of the gun being there w/o its owner.

French President called it an act of war and will show no mercy. Imagine that.

I cant complain too much because I got free money too. 25 cents a week when I was 10 yrs old and I had to budget it as I saw fit and did ok for myself. So maybe she's on to something! Free stuff for everyone! Power to the People! ( cue the riots......)

Thats my personal biggest peeve with them. They're good about email blasts and showing up at Trenton hearings. But when all is said and done the State gets its way with another horrid gun law- not so much lately, not for a lack of trying(!!!) but for a few vetoes. But once a law is passed its here to stay. Has any anti gun law/infringement/statute/admin code/regulation etc EVER been challenged in court much less rescinded by their efforts? Seems once its law, its law....I dont believe ANJRPC was ever meant to take on the heated modern legal aspects so much as to promote the sporting side of firearms and be a binder group for the industry. They give a token resistence because, well. its in their ballpark. they run a nice range and I'm grateful for that but they are not a force to be reckoned with on the state legislative/judiciary level.

Yes, Jim R. is our national/regional rep( and as linked above has other states interests too) out of the home offices of the NRA and also we have ANJRPC with their Mission: The Association of New Jersey Rifle and Pistol Clubs, Inc. is the official NRA State Association in New Jersey. Our mission is to implement all of the programs and activities at the state level that the NRA does at the national level. This mission includes the following: To support and defend the constitutional rights of the people to keep and bear arms. To take immediate action against any legislation at the local, state and federal level that would infringe upon these rights. To coordinate the interests of all rifle, pistol and/or shooting clubs in New Jersey. To promote and sponsor local and state championship competitions as well as sectional and regional championships in all recognized shooting disciplines. To support and promote all other firearms activities such as hunting, collecting and bench rest shooting. To promote, organize and conduct firearms training. To encourage interest in participation in firearms activities by all, and especially minorities, women and juniors.

Thanx. seemed like that was just making sure before I invested about 3 yrs of reading for me lol.

No need for a response but I'm thinking out loud that our state NRA rep was one of the "atta boys"......

Like Westy said, it can happen or at least fighting it and all the costs, anxiety, etc can take its toll on you, and thats the OP's point. If its such a non-issue why did the State withdraw its offer to put in writing and clarify that they could in fact be reasonable deviations. And they were willing to do just that but paired it with some other pork brl anti law that was not acceptable, forget the specifics .

Guys- Lights Out, One Second After, One year After- whats linked to what? Looks like a good winter readfest.

like having a gold tooth? lol

Puts a smile on my face thinking the defense is getting their shorts bunched up lol. Will contribute when/if needed.

for Vets Day,thru this Friday 11/13. wasnt impressed with pricing but 357mag and 45 were good. https://www.freedommunitions.com/#&panel1-1

part of NJ's definition of a manufacturer is any person who obtains parts and processes them into firearms or finished parts of firearms....Right from Nappens NJ gun law book page 107 so there's the lawyer speak.The 80% is the part and machining/finishing is the process. Thats not the slipperry slope, its pretty straight-forward. Doing the PA (or other out of state)dosy-doe might be. You can assemble/build your own AR from finished parts, many of us do, no big thing. Now stop making me defend NJ's assinine laws! lol

one is assembly, the other manufacturing.

And thats the discussion....

Because of what BLF said above about the only 80% talk we have around here is if I buy it in PA. finish it in PA can I blah blah blah...