Wojo

I think they waited for the resources to clear. After-all, the main event of the best finishers had past by some two hours. So, I speculate that some EMS / SWAT / BPD / Mass State Police let their guard down, thinking things were winding down (human nature) and maybe left their assigned posts or got complacent (had a smoke, took a leak, grabbed some chow) and that provided the opportunity to place the charges and set the timers.

They are not the cheapest, but you are buying in small quantities so it is going to be close to 'retail' price whatever that is now. If you go by the gun counter, they have a small square glass cabinet that usually has whatever primers they have in there. Just open it yourself and take what you want to the counter. The powder is locked up in some wooden cabinets over buy the bows so you need to ask one of the gun counter guys to open it for you. No registering it like NJ...well at least last month. They also have a small section for reloading with a few popular dies, shell holders, boxes, and other things. They have always been very nice. I have bought a few long guns from them and lots of other hunting, camping, fishing stuff over the years. I stop buy at least once a month and spend more then I should there.

Thanks for getting me in the know. So I wonder, what side his 2,000 armed closest friends are on and if they are planning any surprises to help make the political process lean towards confiscation? Probably not, but certainly worthy of a discussion in light of what the AG is doing there. I am feeling like a teenager again that I trust no one over the age of 21, or gets a paycheck from any government agency. Sorry guys. But sadly, to many things are making me form this opinion. I was Coast Guard doing LE for 2 and SAR work in AK for 2 years, 6 years as a Special with Passaic County, FBI Citizens Academy and did enough contractor work for OGA and protected foreign dignitaries state-side that my trust in policy makers is NOTHING now. Out of uniform is one thing, but when your superiors are taking orders from politicians, it taints the man.

Try giving Davis Sport Shop a call in Sloatsburg. Less then 10 minutes over the NJ / NY State Line. IIRC, they had IMR 4895 the last time I was up there a couple of weeks ago picking up more H4350. I am waiting on an order of H4895 from Powder Valley.

Guess a little professional critcism is too close to the bone here. Not targeting you...but a security lapse can happen with 10 times the amount of resources you mention. Not sure what you met about, I'm not privy to what you do. I used to 'meet' with lots of people too. Doesn't mean the meetings are productive or perfect. 2,000 'closest' armed friends...okay, what division or department? I really don't care about these numbers other then the fact someone dropped the ball here. I feel this was preventable. If it wasn't, its time to review SOP's and have a real thorough hot-wash after an event like this. Crap, we had to go nuts to clear a brand new shopping mall in Michigan because the very aged former President Ford was coming for a visit. We had to remove boxes, planters, and on and on. Even in the back halls behind the food court where he would never visit. And the mall wasn't even open to the public yet. He wasn't a high profile target any longer for sure. A major event like this is IMHO is. It was either an insider or weak policy. What's April 23? The start of confiscation?

Many of us who have lived / worked through interesting life experiences have a 'dark or gallows' sense of humor. It is what we do and what gets us thru things. Hang out with some EMS guys and gals or ER Trauma Center folks...their dinner talk would make you hurl or blow liquids out your nose from laughter depending on who they are. Are they evil people? I think not. Oddly, people in NJ have it more then any other place. Sarcasm and off color humor is our gift to the rest of the nation. And you if you can't handle it, sit at the kidde table. Lighten up Francis.

Please, please, please stay at the Bullet Hole. I'm joining just to put some distance between myself and many other shooters that are well...lacking in some areas.

I had a newer one. They are real fun to shoot. I wanted to have one because my Grandfather jumped into Normandy the night before D-Day with one and he said they did well on Germans at close range. After 2 days of holding their position, some arty took out their position and he woke up in a POW hospital.

If they put "Bomb Free Zone" signs around, they never would've had this happen.

Sometimes life can be harsh Chris. Get over it.

I know it sounds goofy, but these types of lapses piss me off. The entire Congresswoman Giffords thing was another botched security operation that never gets reported. Protocol was that she was supposed to have a security detail and was to notify the US Capitol Police and they would have arranged security or the local PD would have. IF her office followed protocol, we wouldn't have her taking the torch from Jim Brady for the next few decades.

I am pondering what actually Boston PD did as far as security goes. When I was involved with EP / Security, I worked the NYC Marathon's Starting / Staging area a few years ago. I was at our HQ / CP and was doing some prelim work and later was handling comms for our 250 strong private security force. We had the NYPD / DHS K9 dogs clear all the VIP Areas, Grandstands and over 5,000 Porta-Potties and then we yellow taped all the 'sterile' areas and posted guards at these areas. I know the same was going on at the finish line as well. I guess NYC has different procedures then BPD. The proximity of these explosions has me questioning the methods ( or lack thereof) imployed here.

It seems that a fair bunch of us are within a short ride. If you are tight on time you can always call ahead and get an idea of wait times.

Philly to PA as is Newark / Camden is to NJ/ LA to Cali...Detriot to MI. We keep letting a small percentage of the 13% along with some other kooks, change our laws that effect 98% of us.

Burned a few miles over the weekend just to blow the dust off. Tonight, a few cold ones and time to detail the Harley. The Kawasaki KLR 650 can wait...then again, other then hosing off the mud, I really don't wash that one.

Stopped in today at 11:30. Anthony did a fantastic job. He over-thought everything. Myself being a person that looks for details, this place is the bomb. If you think it is expensive, then you haven't seen the thought and quality behind this place. Me, knowing the median between ports is ballistic material, makes me feel much safer bringing my wife and kids there to shoot versus some place where a larger percentage of people have neck tattoos and can't seem to figure out how to wear their pants or ball caps. CR membership will not be renewed I can tell you that much. Having this 12 miles from my house and being able to shoot rifles at 50 yards it the deal maker for me. Anthony---Good Luck to you and I will be praying for your success. You truly have set the bar much higher as an example of excellence once again. Ciao, Wojo

I live down the road in Bloomingdale...Passaic County taxes suck. If we moved to the next town over in Butler or Riverdale, both are Morris County, our taxes would be much less. I do love the area though. Today walked out my back yard and went hiking with my son and his buddy for 4.5 hours thru the lakes behind me and up into Norvin Green State Forest. If they hunt, you can hunt in Sterling Forest just a few minutes up the road in NY and can use center fire rifles. With the exception of this past year, I have done well in there. If you ride a motorcycle, it is a great area to go out for a quick burn on some country roads that wind thru reservoirs, lakes, and local dive bars / restaurants that appreciate the business. Other than taxes, it is a nice area to live.

Wow, that is in incredible shape. The wood, the finish...nice score!

This is / was my company. http://www.proactivesecurity.us/

TFL

Excellent program. I've done two and brought my son when he was 12 to one. Nice course of instruction and fire. Plus, some cool US History thrown in about how markmanship made this country great. A 10/22 is all you need. All targets are posted at 25 yards and are scaled to simulate much greater distances.

Not the cheapest, but they have excellent customer service and fast turn around times for stock items. I order from Natchez first and then will give Midway a second look. I used to spend a lot of coin with Brownells, but they have gotten crazy with their prices.

Yes, many, many times. Scan it and email it. Sh!t Happens.

I picked up the 590A1 'Blackwater' and am pretty happy with it. I thought it would be more accurate with slugs at 50 yards, but then again, being off a couple of inches getting hit by a slug really doesn't matter much. I just wish it didn't say BW on it.

You guys can bring cookies and baked goods to the blue helmets when they come. Me, I'll provide a copper and lead supplement for them.