Anselmo

The law says reasonable stops. Reasonable is subjective. If you get stopped by LEO 1.5 hours from home and 1.5 hours from the range.... That is hard to justify as reasonable. Personally, I think the law is to prevent people from driving around with a handgun in their trunk. My friends stops at McDonald's on the way to the range. Some people won't stop at all. Now, if it's your own business it's different than if you work someone else.

It always shocks me when they euthanize million dollar race horses on the track.

You should go shoot it first to make sure. Or, to confuse you more to see all the other choices. LOL. A few ranges rent them, the 92FS is a standard.

Have you shot it?

I was driving through Princeton about 10 years ago on my way to work. Due to traffic I was on one of the side streets with the mansions. An injured deer was on the side of the road and a police cruiser was pulled next to it. The officer visually examined the deer as I stopped next to him. The officer pulled his pistol and shot the deer in the head from about 5 feet away; about 15 feet from me. I thought to myself, hmmm, I thought it would have been more protocol involved with it.

If you outlaw knitting needles only the outlaws will have knitting needles.

Real men use .45 needles.

Looks kinda scary. Is it NJ legal?

A tough looking group of bikers were riding when they saw a girl about to jump off a bridge so they stop. The leader, a big burly man, gets off his bike and says, "What are you doing?" "I'm going to commit a suicide," she says. While he did not want to appear insensitive, he didn't want to miss an opportunity he asked "Well, before you jump, why don't you give me a Kiss?" So, she does and it was a long, deep lingering kiss. After she's finished, the biker says, "Wow! That was the best Kiss I have ever had. That's a real talent you are wasting. You could be famous Why are you committing suicide?" "My parents don't like me dressing up like a girl......"

+1. I'm not out in the middle of the woods. Knives at home, knives at work. Multi-tool in the car. Now, my Blackberry, that is always on me.

There are a whole bunch of these types of videos on Youtube. This one has audio and makes more sense to me than the Cabela's one.

I am a Rutger Alumnus. Took sociology one class. Didn't do so well. Everything in Its Path: Destruction of Community in the Buffalo Creek Flood was my downfall. My professor and I didn't see eye to eye on the plight of the displaced, homeless townspeople. I thought the townspeople should have been grateful for a warm bed and not complain so much. I knew that Rutgers was liberal when I went there years ago and I embraced the equality aspects related to women and gays. But I never understood the anti-gun stuff from the left.

Agreed.

I can't agree with this. If the LEO and OCer are both holstered, the LEO is equal. The LEO has to have the upper hand and take charge. The LEO wants to question the OCer for suspicion of illegal activity. Of course the LEO would draw and take charge. The OCer has a gun and the LEO does not know his intentions. If the LEO knew there was no illegal intentions there would be no reason to talk to the OCer to begin with. Swept at the range is not equivalent to an LEO drawing on you.

This same guy OC'd last year and also got stopped and questioned by the police. He said he told the police he didn't have to show them his permit last year. Seems this guy OC's and get questioned more than once.

My link Here is another encounter with Landsdale PD regarding OC. Seems Landsdale knows the laws.

The hating on OC has nothing to do with tactical reasons. I believe the guy in the story is carrying OC not for tactical reasons but to make a point. Two guys making out in public might be legal but it might cause a ruckus because some people don't accept things so easily. That is the analogy. Just because you can do something doesn't always mean it is a good idea. Remember that soccer mom that open carried? Caused a ruckus with the other soccer moms. "And her lawyer -- Robert Magee -- says that while Pennsylvania requires a permit for a concealed firearm, it doesn't require a license to carry one openly except in Philadelphia."

I listened to the audio. I didn't hear thugs. I heard genuine confusion. I heard the cops saying, "I'm not giving you the benefit of the doubt even if you're right. I'm in charge and I'm not getting shot. IF anyone gets shot it will be the civilian. I've been cop for years and never seen anyone OC. You must be trying to test me or you're looking for trouble."

Call me Francis but I think this just gives foundation to enact further gun control laws. Just carry concealed and no one knows unless they need to know. Carry open and the police are going to ask questions. It's common sense. Win the battle; lose the war.

I'm really torn about this kind of stuff. On one hand, I think the OP is just looking for a situation. On the other, if he's in the right, there shouldn't be a situation. Personally, I try to avoid situations. I manage to get the Auto Zone and back home without drama. The Guy seemed genuinely cool and the police officer seemed genuinely concerned about the OC and sleeping in his bed that night.

I didn't think he did. I read it the same as Knight. Warm bed and no gun in NJ is better than no bed with gun in Nevada. It's all a matter of priorities.

Probably no specific law. You get a gift certificate to a local gun shop and you get a pizza gift cert if you don't want or don't qualify for the gun.

My link Qualifying customers have the choice between a Hi Point 380 pistol or a 20-gauge shotgun. Holy crap. Is this the same country we live in? Can you imagine this sign in NJ?

I've seen beer case boxes, Craftsmen tool bags, gym bags, back packs and a guitar case at the range.

I use Opera on my blackberry. The older version rocks. The new version not so much.