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I wasn't implying that Nappen is the end all when it comes to NJ gun laws, I was merely responding to John Boy's suggestion to get Nappen's opinion.

According to Nappen's book, it is his opinion that it is legal to bring back into NJ legally purchased air, BP and antique guns without doing anything regarding permits or COE's.

IIRC having your firearms in a case or wrapped up or in the trunk is a fish and game originated rule that applies to everyone to control poaching. I have been checked by CO's (game wardens) at least a dozen times while getting in or out of my pick up, NEVER once has a CO said to me that a soft unlocked case was anything less than compliant. I have also been stopped by the police on my way home from hunting, and my unloaded shotgun sitting on the back seat in a soft unlocked case was never an issue.

Any firearm (and since NJ considers air guns and BP firearms, these are included) acquired LEGALLY out of state can be brought back to NJ without registering them as long as they are not AW's or NFA guns. And I recall a case out of Essex county where a judge ruled that the statute of limitations on illegal firearms ACQUISITION is 5 years. So, if that is indeed the case an illegal acquisition made in NJ more than 5 years ago would probably be too old to prosecute anyway. Like Malsua said, you still need to transport air guns like they are real firearms.

Retailers are not obligated under the law to take back any products, most will do so as a courtesy, to retain customer loyalty. Retailers are only obligated to deliver what you paid for, and inform you (by posting conspicuous signs) of what their return policy is. If a store posts "NO RETURNS" or "ALL SALES FINAL" they do not have to take anything back if they don't want to. As far as firearms go, I would imagine they won't take them back for the same reason as a new car can't be returned, too much paperwork and and too much lost money when something gets returned, some stores (like Dick's) don't sell used guns, so what are they going to do with it? They probably can't just send it back to the manufacturer for a credit like it was a fishing reel.

I know federal law requires on commercial vehicles 18k and over: a fire extinguisher, set of triangles and set of fuses. I know there are state regs that require at least some of this on commercial vehicles (don't recall if only vehicles over 10k or all vehicles). If driving interstate with a commercial vehicle 10k or more you need USDOT numbers and most states also require you to register your company with them and pay additional fees. A log book is required if traveling outside of 100 miles from your business location, which is why commercial vehicles need to have company name, city and state written on the side of the vehicle.

I always thought it was commercial plated vehicles only, but the link you provided doesn't state that. The commercial reg renewals always came with a white card that explained all this.

You can get a permit (I think it's free or only a few dollars) to hunt Walkill FWR. You will still need a hunting license and zone 2 shotgun permit, and I don't think the season is open during the 6 day firearm season, only when doe season is also open.

I gave up hunting state land for birds many years ago after seeing too much unsafe crap go down. I'm in a private club now, semi wild, so we had our opening day today. I shot one and my buddy got two, we limit each guy to 3 per day. It's nice because we start at 9am, get together after and BBQ, we have pools for whoever gets a tagged bird, and best of all we stock every Sat and Sun through mid February.

As far as I know, all guns were just cash and carry in NJ before 1966, but I wasn't around to vouch for it, that is the 3rd legal way a person could have obtained a handgun without a permit. I do know there were real gunshows in NJ before 1966. I was talking to a dealer from PA at a gunshow, and he was telling me when he first started (pre 68), the only thing he was required to do when selling any gun was to ask if the buyer was over 18. Ahhh, Edelman's, now your bringing back memories, I bought my first gun ever from there, a Remy 870, from the store in Wayne.

I have a model 60 that I bought new circa 1992 or 1993, I recall being told that it was rated for +P, and have shot some +P out of it (not much, mostly just to try it out). I do recall the sales guy saying that it was not a good idea to shoot a lot of +P out of it, because it would probably stress the gun, and lead to issues.

I was talking about gun issues, CMP , M1 carbine clones.

300 officers to raid H&K? That was probably half of Germany's police force.

One more thing to ponder, the way I read this statute, you can temporarily transfer a firearm in your home, or anywhere else, to train someone on its' use. 2C:58-3.1. temporary transfer of firearms 1. a. Notwithstanding the provisions of N.J.S.2C:39-9, N.J.S.2C:58-2, N.J.S.2C:58-3 or any other statute to the contrary concerning the transfer or disposition of firearms, the legal owner, or a dealer licensed under N.J.S.2C:58-2, may temporarily transfer a handgun, rifleor shotgun to another person who is 18 years of age or older, whether or not the person receiving the firearm holds a firearms purchaser identification card or a permit to carry a handgun. The person to whom a handgun, rifle or shotgun is temporarily transferred by the legal owner of the firearm or a licensed dealer may receive, possess, carry and use that handgun, rifle or shotgun, if the transfer is made upon a firing range operated by a licensed dealer, by a law enforcement agency, a legally recognized military organization or a rifle or pistol club which has filed a copy of its charter with the superintendent and annually submits to the superintendent a list of its members and if the firearm is received, possessed, carried and used for the sole purpose of target practice, trap or skeet shooting, or competition upon that firing range or instruction and training at any location.

Does anyone know anything about Jeff Chiesa? The supposed front runner for job. Maybe NJ2AS can get a meeting with Christie, and explain to him it's time to rectify the damage done by Dow to his constituency - wishful thinking I know, but worth trying.

Not that I would really want to see that, but in that event, at least she wouldn't be "interpreting" any more laws against us.

I've owned a S&W 1006 for a long time, It's the first handgun I bought, still like it.

I have one that I bought earlier this year, I put 100 or 150 rounds through it without issue. I don't shoot it much since it lends itself better to carry than target shooting. I will say, it's the only .380 I every shot that functioned flawlessly with any brand of ammo, most .380's are finicky.

You were probably looking under 2C, which is actual law. The evil features list is in the Administrative Code under Title 13, which is a former AG's interpretation of the law. There have been some lengthy debates on this forum as to how enforceable the AC is on regular people, so I won't get into that now, just understand that the NJSP IS considering it the law of the land in NJ and most people are not looking to become the test case and think it's best to comply. Also, 2C says mags must be blocked to no more than 15 rounds, but does not specify how. The AC says they must be permanently blocked, but does not define "permanently" - welding is widely accepted as "permanent".

I haven't done 20, but I've done 10

My PD told me that the permit could be renewed anytime before the 180 days is out, they will renew before the 90 days is up within reason. Keep in mind if you renew on day 170 you still only have 10 days left. My PD will take a few days to renew the permit, it's not done on the spot. Every town is different, and some will not renew them at all, even though it's in their best interest to renew them rather than make you apply for new ones.

Yep, it's only a matter of time before the start mounting plate recognition cameras on poles on the side of the road, so they can track the movement of all vehicles and store it in a database for retrieval later when they feel the need to.

No, but I wonder why we still use checks in this day and age, Europe stopped using them in the 70's. As far as EZ Pass, I drive on toll roads about once every two or three months, and the bridges over the Delaware are only $1, it doesn't pay for me to bother.

Yep, and it cost me another $.44 to mail it back to them, and possibly something from my bank on a per check fee (not sure about that one). Our government at it's best. :senile: